U.S. Budget & OBBB | OCT 1 - Gov’t Shutdown Begins

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altmin said:
Well I guess the silver lining is that the Republicans are actually expecting a 2028 election, which I am sure will go to the Democrats, but then the whole economy blows up.

Must be nice to live in a world where you can lie with impunity, steal from your voters blindly and never ever ever have to answer for it. The country deserves its collapse for repeatedly going back to this well.
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That's what worries me - the full impact of all of this may take a few years to fully settle in. If a Democratic POTUS gets elected in 2028 then Trumpers will simply turn all of their propaganda outlets into placing all of the blame on them for what has happened, and we all know that their base will buy it hook, line, and sinker. They did it with Biden. That's not to say that I certainly don't want a Democrat to win in 2028 (or the Democrats to sweep to control of Congress in 2026), but only that even if they win Republicans have shown a real talent for blaming all of their failures on Democrats, and I don't expect that to stop anytime soon.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I honestly dont know why we are stressing over it. We all knew how bad it would be and we all knew it would pass and we all knew there is zero power for Democrats to do anything about it.
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Yep. The only small silver lining is that a whole bunch of mayonnaise sandwich-eating cousin fuckers are about to find out the hard way. Oh well!
 


Speaking of cousin fuckers, has there ever been a bigger cousin fucker in the history of cousin fuckers than some dude named Markwayne?
 
Honestly, though, and I mean this with utmost sincerity, good on the Republicans. They did quite literally exactly what they said they were going to do on the campaign trail. Ain’t their fault that their voters are dipshits.
 
wmheel1287 said:
I honestly dont know why we are stressing over it. We all knew how bad it would be and we all knew it would pass and we all knew there is zero power for Democrats to do anything about it.
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Of course they were going to find the votes they needed to pass this bill, because Congressional Republicans are all spineless cowards who are terrified of Trump and his base and will cave nearly every time. And it should be remembered that one of the main complaints of some Republicans about this bill (who voted for it anyway) is that it doesn't cut enough - they actually want more cuts. This vote just confirms that Trump still owns the GOP body and soul and that it really is a cult of personality, which is something nearly everyone on this board knew anyway.
 
CFordUNC said:
Honestly, though, and I mean this with utmost sincerity, good on the Republicans. They did quite literally exactly what they said they were going to do on the campaign trail. Ain’t their fault that their voters are dipshits.
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I mean, no. They campaigned on not knowing about or having anything to do with Project 2025.

They just lied.
 
lightbluenc said:
Im not super thrilled with the prospect of both my children losing Medicaid coverage. Not sure what to do
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I am so very sorry to hear that. What's the situation with coverage for you and/or the other parent? Im pretty good with finessing the enrollment process on the marketplace. I don't want them to go without coverage.
 
Healing said:
Modestly educated prediction time: ~10 years from now, economic, epidemiological, and public health will draw straight lines between a reduction in US lifespan and widespread exacerbation of chronic disease and this bill.

I continue to stand on the prediction that Trump 2.0 kills more Americans than 1.0, and we already know it’s going to kill many, many millions more worldwide.
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There are a good many schools in my urban county that have either a majority or very large minority of kids who receive reduced or free school lunches. I cringe when I think about what is going to happen to a good many of those kids. It's simply inhumane and utterly un-Christlike, and yet here we are - and all of this is being caused mostly by people who loudly and proudly call themselves Christian.
 
Healing said:
Modestly educated prediction time: ~10 years from now, economic, epidemiological, and public health will draw straight lines between a reduction in US lifespan and widespread exacerbation of chronic disease and this bill.

I continue to stand on the prediction that Trump 2.0 kills more Americans than 1.0, and we already know it’s going to kill many, many millions more worldwide.
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US lifespan has already fallen decently below the rest of the first world, despite the supposed "best healthcare on the planet."
 
CFordUNC said:
Honestly, though, and I mean this with utmost sincerity, good on the Republicans. They did quite literally exactly what they said they were going to do on the campaign trail. Ain’t their fault that their voters are dipshits.
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Say what?

No, they voted for the conservative nirvana they were promised. Conservative media never once told them about the downsides of their votes. They are ignorant, many by choice, of how Trump’s agenda will negatively impact them because he lied and the right wing media bubble ate it up. But transgender Americans and pet-eating Haitians in Ohio are still gonna get fucked over so all is good and they will gladly suffer the consequences since people they fear will be worse off than them.
 
The pubs may lose the presidency and legislature because of this bill, but I don't think they care.

This is the big grift. once they have stolen it all, they will hole up in their compound islands and any attempt by a Dem prez and congress to correct it will be deemed unconstitutional by the supremes.

even if they get routed in 26 and 28, due to the outsized representation of sates like Idaho and Montana, Democrats likely won't get the supermajority needed to amend the relevant constitutional clauses.
 
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