U.S. destroys Venezuelan vessels | Double Tap strike scrutiny

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You don't think it's even plausible that foreign Cartel drug runners could be considered enemy combatants in light of their goal to flood the USA with illegal drugs which are killing hundreds of thousands of our youth?
People are dying of opioid and fentanyl overdoses, not cocaine overdoses. That said, Trump just pardoned one of the world’s most notorious cocaine traffickers so he must not be worried about drug deaths.
 
As long as you’re good with bombing Smith & Wesson’s headquarters and double tapping any surviving execs, I could get down with that logic.
By that logic, whoever killed that CEO last year was ahead of the game.

Similarly Phillip Morris execs and Exxon should avoid open spaces.
 
Isn't this based upon the Dem Senator's interpretation of the video which directly conflicts with the Rep Senator's interpretation? Both sides likely spinning the video in their favor. Like Adam Schiff going on TV for years swearing that he had seen in classified briefings hard evidence of Trump colluding with Russia.
According to reporting, it's based on what "the top military official overseeing the strike [Bradley] told lawmakers" "according to three sources with direct knowledge of his congressional briefings." Three sources, no indication of party, direct knowledge, based on Bradley's statements, not based on the video.
 
Fair response.

I admit that I am guilty of currently modeling politics as a scoreboard for my team in this political environment. I would argue, however, that I've been forced into this defensive position simply because the Dems have been so relentless in attacking Trump from the day he was sworn in. Since Dems have been out for scalps for Trump and his supporters this has forced MAGA into defending Trump for almost everything he has done. Since 2023 alone Dems have done everything imaginable to bankrupt him and put him in jail for life. The NY criminal and civil cases were particularly egregious. I know you won't agree with me on this but can't you at least understand our position? Do you really think those cases would have been brought against anyone not named Trump?

Now we're in such a heated political environment that we're (and ICE and the NG and police) are routinely and loudly called fascists, NAZIs, dictators, Gestapo, Himmler, Goebbels, etc. In my opinion this has lead to Trump's assassination attempts, Kirk's assassination and the targeting and murder of the NG solders in DC. I expect in the near future we'll be talking about the murder of ICE or Border Patrol officials.

So yeah I, along with other of the President's supporters, bend over backwards to defend him but it's reasonable in light of the left's actions. Part of me wishes we could return to the pre Trump political environment since neither side appears willing to put down their swords anytime soon.
Blindly defending Donald Trump is not a reasonable action.
 
Considered, by you? By Trump? Sure, consider away. But "considering", by you or Trump, is not a legal basis to fire Hellfire missiles at random people you don't like.

There is extensive legal precedent which lays out in excruciatingly precise detail exactly how to adjudicate what constitutes a non-international armed conflict (NIAC).

To whit:

The first and most fundamental problem is simply that the United States is not engaged in an armed conflict with any drug cartel. Under the well-established understanding of the preconditions for a “noninternational armed conflict,” it is necessary (at a minimum) (i) that the non-State entity is an “organized armed group” with the sort of command structure that would render members targetable on the basis of their status because they’re subject to commanders’ direction and control and (ii) that the organized armed group has engaged in armed violence against the State that is of some intensity (think of al Qaeda’s attacks on Sept. 11, 2001) and that has been protracted. See Prosecutor v. Haradinaj, Case No. IT-04-84-T, Trial Judgment ¶ 49 (Int’l Crim. Trib. for the former Yugoslavia, Apr. 3, 2008); Prosecutor v. Tadić, Case No. IT-94-1-AR72, Decision on Defence Motion for Interlocutory Appeal on Jurisdiction ¶ 70 (Int’l Crim. Trib. for the former Yugoslavia, Oct. 2, 1995); International Committee of the Red Cross, Commentary to Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions, Part C-2-b.

The Trump administration hasn’t made any effort—not publicly, anyway—to demonstrate that any of the drug cartels in question are “organized” armed groups with the sort of command structure that would render members targetable on the basis of their status. But even if it could do so, those cartels haven’t engaged in any protracted or intense armed violence against the United States.

The notice the administration sent to Congress this week asserts, without citing any evidence, that the cartels “conduct ongoing attacks throughout the Western Hemisphere” and that “their actions constitute an armed attack against the United States.” The notice, however, doesn’t identify any such armed attack against the United States, let alone attacks of sufficient intensity and duration to establish a noninternational armed conflict with the United States. (I am uncertain whether intense armed violence that isn’t “prolonged” or “protracted” would suffice to establish a noninternational armed conflict, but that question isn’t relevant here, where the cartels haven’t engaged in armed attacks against the United States that are prolonged or intense.). It’s fairly evident from the notice that when the President uses the term “armed attack” he is referring not to any actual armed attack as any States or international tribunals understand that term, but instead to the “flow of illicit narcotics into the United States,” which “illegally and directly cause the deaths of tens of thousands of American citizens each year.” The distribution of dangerous narcotics, however, isn’t an armed attack or armed violence in the sense used in international law to determine whether an armed conflict has commenced. As far as I know, there’s nothing in international law that even suggests that such drug activity is sufficient to trigger the right of the affected State to kill persons simply because they are members of the drug cartel (which isn’t surprising, given the radical implications of such a theory).

The second considerable problem with the president’s new “armed conflict” theory is that even if there were an armed conflict—i.e., even if, contrary to any evidence, a particular drug cartel was an organized armed group that has engaged in intense or prolonged armed attacks against the United States—it’s likely that the Constitution would preclude Trump from ordering ongoing status-based targeting of members of that cartel due to the absence of any domestic law authority. To be sure, Article II empowers a president to repel an actual attack against the United States (or its troops). But that’s a far cry from authorizing an ongoing series of status-based strikes by the United States against a non-State armed group as part of an exchange of attacks that is sufficiently prolonged or intense to establish a noninternational armed conflict. At least if one assumes, as Trump appears to do, that this purported armed conflict would continue for some time, then it would almost surely be of such “nature, scope and duration” to constitute “war in the constitutional sense” (see Office of Legal Counsel opinions across many administrations to which I linked in my September 10 article), and therefore would require congressional authorization pursuant to the “Declare War” clause of Article I, section 8 of the Constitution. (And, at a minimum Section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution would prohibit such attacks as of 60 days after they began, i.e., after November 1.)

For these reasons, the Trump administration’s newly announced determination that the United States allegedly is engaged in an armed conflict with an untold number of drug cartels does not offer any basis for concluding that the Caribbean strikes have been lawful. Moreover, as others will surely emphasize, such a determination raises very troubling questions about possible military action against alleged cartel members in the United States itself, and on the territory of other nations.



IOW, this is just plain old fashioned vanilla murder. Our laws don't make exceptions for "But what if I really, really,really didn't like that guy?".

This adherence to law protect you, every bit as much as it does me, as it also does drug mules.
And not just “considered.” But “plausible” to be “considered.”

The “don’t tread on me,” crowd doesn’t mind the government indiscriminately killing citizens, but don’t dare ask them to sometimes wear a mask during a global pandemic.
 
And not just “considered.” But “plausible” to be “considered.”

The “don’t tread on me,” crowd doesn’t mind the government indiscriminately killing citizens, but don’t dare ask them to sometimes wear a mask during a global pandemic.
I think it's an oath Republicans take to refrain from logic and reason in favor of mystery and magic. I can't think of a thing that they support that has an overall cost/benefit advantage in terms of the nation as a whole. They do know how to pick out the prime cuts, though, and feel entitled to them.
 
What if you're labelled a "baby killer"? Can you be killed at Planned Parenthood? Can a double tap be ordered if you are seen crawling out of the rubble? You could live to kill babies again.
 
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