U.S. destroys Venezuelan vessels | Secret notice of “armed conflict” with some cartels

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Callatoroy said:
1. He campaigned on designating drug cartels as terrorist organizations so the US could directly go after them as the previous efforts at combatting drug smuggling into the US was ineffective and the help from the home countries of the cartels was spotty.

2. This is an easy win for trump and gives him something to act tough over and is a political win among voters. Who doesn't support blowing up drug smugglers? Doesn't matter if we know whether they are in fact drug smugglers or not. Most voters will never question it and just assume that what they were told is true.

3. I support blowing up drug smugglers if in fact they are drug smugglers but I want transparency and some evidence of proof beyond a televised PC or twitter post.
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Appreciate the response, but you didn’t answer the question. I’ll ask it a little more directly.

Given the fact there is zero percent chance these boats were headed to the USA, do you think Trump is executing these people to force regime change in Venezuela and the “fighting drug cartels” is merely a pretense?

Because (as the NYTimes article above goes into) the actions Trump is taking don’t make much sense when you look at the stated purpose.
 
0 chance they were headed to the US given the distance. 0 evidence they were smuggling drugs. No due process. Plus if it is all about the drugs, they are dialing that back inside the US 🤔

Exclusive: Federal drug prosecutions fall to lowest level in decades as Trump shifts focus to deportations

Exclusive: Federal drug prosecutions fall to lowest level in decades as Trump shifts focus to deportations
  • Federal drug prosecutions drop 10% in 2025 as agents focus on immigration
  • Number of new cases being filed is lowest in decades, according to Reuters analysis
  • High-priority drug investigations have stalled, officials say
The number of people charged with breaking federal drug laws dropped to the lowest level in decades this year after the Trump administration ordered enforcement agencies to focus on deporting immigrants, a Reuters review of nearly 2 million federal court records found.

So far this year, about 10% fewer people have been prosecuted for drug violations compared to the same period of 2024, court records show, a drop of about 1,200 cases and the slowest rate since at least the late 1990s. The pullback was more dramatic for the types of conspiracy and money-laundering cases often used to pursue higher-level traffickers. The number of people charged with money-laundering dropped by 24%, according to Reuters' analysis.
 
DiehardHeelFan said:
0 chance they were headed to the US given the distance. 0 evidence they were smuggling drugs. No due process. Plus if it is all about the drugs, they are dialing that back inside the US 🤔

Exclusive: Federal drug prosecutions fall to lowest level in decades as Trump shifts focus to deportations

Exclusive: Federal drug prosecutions fall to lowest level in decades as Trump shifts focus to deportations
  • Federal drug prosecutions drop 10% in 2025 as agents focus on immigration
  • Number of new cases being filed is lowest in decades, according to Reuters analysis
  • High-priority drug investigations have stalled, officials say
The number of people charged with breaking federal drug laws dropped to the lowest level in decades this year after the Trump administration ordered enforcement agencies to focus on deporting immigrants, a Reuters review of nearly 2 million federal court records found.

So far this year, about 10% fewer people have been prosecuted for drug violations compared to the same period of 2024, court records show, a drop of about 1,200 cases and the slowest rate since at least the late 1990s. The pullback was more dramatic for the types of conspiracy and money-laundering cases often used to pursue higher-level traffickers. The number of people charged with money-laundering dropped by 24%, according to Reuters' analysis.
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As the Trump Regime fires and/or chases off more and more of the experienced and skilled agents and prosecutors, fewer people will be available to pursue complex drug-trafficking and money-laundering cases.
 
superrific said:
Overdose deaths are not the only harm
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It's difficult for most people to favorably quantify and weigh these other harms as opposed to the manifest daily and ubiquitous harms deliberately and systematically (and, IMO, certainly at some level, diabolically) foisted upon that cadre of citizenry who choose to use drugs by those who don't, a difficulty that the latter cadre benefits from and, I suspect, again at some level, intended. Intended or not, a great many otherwise liberal-minded people (such as yourself, evidently) carry their water for them. Nice trick...
 
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Sadly, there are no credible actors on either side of this escalating conflict.
 


“Colombian President Gustavo Petro has said that a boat recently bombed by the US was "Colombian with Colombian citizens inside", an allegation the White House called "baseless".

… Petro added that "indications show that the last boat bombed was Colombian with Colombian citizens inside it.

"I hope their families come forward and report it. There is no war against smuggling; there is a war for oil and it must be stopped by the world. The aggression is against all of Latin America and the Caribbean."

Petro did not provide further details about the alleged identities of those on board. The US has not commented on the identities of the individuals killed in the strikes.

The White House said in a statement that it "looks forward to President Petro publicly retracting his baseless and reprehensible statement"….”
 
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