theel4life
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The sad truth is I'm not even convinced Putin has anything on Trump. I would actually have more respect for Trump if he was being blackmailed by Putin somehow. but I think the pathetic truth is that Trump essentially looks up to Putin and/or sees him as a kindred spirit. He is jealous of the level of personal control Putin has over his country, government, and media and thinks he should have the same level of control. He sees Putin as having been unfairly maligned in the "Russia hoax" alongside himself (I honestly think Trump believes in his head that it was all a hoax and Russia did nothing wrong).What dirt could Putin possibly have on Trump that is worse than the public knowledge we have of Trump ?
Pee tapes with Russian hookers would not make Trump look any worse than what we already know about Trump .
Mueller made clear that Trump obstruction prevented him from establishing sufficient evidence to prosecute and win a jury verdict for the charge of criminal conspiracy. For Mueller his investigation was not whether there was collusion but to determine whether there was a criminal conspiracy to interfere with the 2016 election.One of the most frustrating things about how people remember the Mueller Report is that the Mueller Report described very clearly and in great detail Russia's wide-ranging efforts to undermine and impact the US election (much of it directly in Trump's favor). But Trump has succeeded in getting a lot of people to believe that the whole Russia side of that was made up just because Mueller was unable to determine if Trump's dingbat campaign officials were intentionally colluding with Russians or just being unknowingly manipulated by them.
This is my feeling as well, for the most part. I have no doubt that Putin has information about Trump that isn't available to the public, just as I'm sure that pretty much every leader of pretty much every major country has information about every other head of state. But it's Trump view of, and desire to emulate, Putin that concerns me more than anything else. Other than the chaos monkey that is Elon Musk, that is.The sad truth is I'm not even convinced Putin has anything on Trump. I would actually have more respect for Trump if he was being blackmailed by Putin somehow. but I think the pathetic truth is that Trump essentially looks up to Putin and/or sees him as a kindred spirit. He is jealous of the level of personal control Putin has over his country, government, and media and thinks he should have the same level of control. He sees Putin as having been unfairly maligned in the "Russia hoax" alongside himself (I honestly think Trump believes in his head that it was all a hoax and Russia did nothing wrong).
So it's not that Putin has something on trump. it's worse. Our President is just a gullible, manipulable fool.
If that were his expectation, then he was dreaming. It has never happened in our history. And party lines are far more inviolate than in the past. Trump could literally shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not be impeached.Mueller made clear that Trump obstruction prevented him from establishing sufficient evidence to prosecute and win a jury verdict for the charge of criminal conspiracy. For Mueller his investigation was not whether there was collusion but to determine whether there was a criminal conspiracy to interfere with the 2016 election.
His expectation was that his plethora of evidence that Trump and his minions obstructed his investigation would be sufficient to lead the House to impeach, the Senate to convict, and remove Trump from office.
I think Putin has got something on Trump. However, your explanation is certainly plausible. Whichever theory is correct, there’s no doubt Putin has Trump by the balls.The sad truth is I'm not even convinced Putin has anything on Trump. I would actually have more respect for Trump if he was being blackmailed by Putin somehow. but I think the pathetic truth is that Trump essentially looks up to Putin and/or sees him as a kindred spirit. He is jealous of the level of personal control Putin has over his country, government, and media and thinks he should have the same level of control. He sees Putin as having been unfairly maligned in the "Russia hoax" alongside himself (I honestly think Trump believes in his head that it was all a hoax and Russia did nothing wrong).
So it's not that Putin has something on trump. it's worse. Our President is just a gullible, manipulable fool.
And would it really matter to MAGA nation if Putin did, and disclosed it? Not one iota. Suck it, libs!Count me in the camp that Putin doesn't have any outright kompromat on Trump, per se. I think that as a former KGB agent, Putin is simply a mastermind of psychological warfare and manipulation.
Oh yeah, totally agree, that’s the thing. There’s literally nothing that Putin could conceivably have on Trump that would cause Trump to lose one single solitary MAGA vote.And would it really matter to MAGA nation if Putin did, and disclosed it? Not one iota. Suck it, libs!
It doesn’t even take a mastermind to influence Trump. He’s hyper-transactional and sees every exchange as having a winner and a loser. He craves adoration from those he sees as lesser and acceptance by those he sees as greater. Play on his need for adoration or acceptance and his idea of winning is easily malleable.Count me in the camp that Putin doesn't have any outright kompromat on Trump, per se. I think that as a former KGB agent, Putin is simply a mastermind of psychological warfare and manipulation.
You don't have to be brilliant to manipulate Trump. Kim Jong Un and Elon Musk and Steve Bannon and a host of other exceptionally middling minds have played him over the years.Oh yeah, totally agree, that’s the thing. There’s literally nothing that Putin could conceivably have on Trump that would cause Trump to lose one single solitary MAGA vote.
We are simply in the unfortunate position of having one of the world’s most brilliant psychological warfare wielders in his position of power at the exact same time as we have the single dumbest, most unintelligent, most easily manipulated, most petulant president in the history of the country in our position of power. It’s not even remotely a fair fight. At this point we are essentially reduced to hoping that the next four years pass without too much irreparable damage happening, or that in the interim Putin dies or is assassinated.
So you are suggesting that the future of the United States is contingent on some Russian oligarch or high-level apparatchik cornering the real Putin--not one of his half-dozen decoys--in a vulnerable position and killing him? And in the ensuing scramble/fight for power, things get sloppy enough that the Russian kompromat on Trump spills out? Would be wonderful to see. The only thing that a free United States has going for itself right now is that Vlad "the Ras" Putin is not a big fan of succession planning.. . .. At this point we are essentially reduced to hoping that the next four years pass without too much irreparable damage happening, or that in the interim Putin dies or is assassinated.
I think trump is doing everything he can to get between russia and china. Whether what he is doing will work is another topic.MAGA do you not find Trump and Putins relationship odd?