UNC Basketball Possible coaches - UNC hires ex-Nuggets HC Michael Malone

I think we need to keep some of the current staff just because of continuity...not even Carolina continuity necessarily but continuity of people who know college basketball, the portal, etc. One of the huge failures of the Belichick fiasco was (to me) having not just a HC who didn't know college football but a staff of mostly all people who don't know it either.
 
I think we need to keep some of the current staff just because of continuity...not even Carolina continuity necessarily but continuity of people who know college basketball, the portal, etc. One of the huge failures of the Belichick fiasco was (to me) having not just a HC who didn't know college football but a staff of mostly all people who don't know it either.
Agree - and then made even worse by hiring his friends and family.
 
The national commentary on the hire is almost 100% positive. I watched a lot of clips last evening and everyone agrees we're getting a basketball mind who is a no nonsense old school NYC guy - a lot closer to Dan Hurley than we might realize.
 
IC reporting that Malone is hiring Chuck Martin as his head assistant/recruiting coordinator. He's a 26 year veteran coach who's currently on Calipari's staff at Arky fulfilling that role.
Note that IC is reporting that the hire isn't finalized yet. Would definitely be a good hire. But I wonder if Cal will fight to keep him.
 
Heck, Malone isn't even official yet.

"sources have confirmed to IC" that Martin "is expected to join Malone's initial UNC staff"...
 
Having had time to digest the news from yesterday, I think where I've ultimately landed on the Malone hire is "hopeful/optimistic skeptic." This is an extremely high risk-high reward hire, and I continue to be baffled that UNC adamantly refuses to ever hire conventional coachers for our two major sports anymore, but with this hire I can at least see the vision behind it, even if I may not fully agree with it. If Malone, unlike Belichick, is willing and able to surround himself with experienced collegiate coaches and recruiters, and if Malone, unlike Belichick, shows a willingness to display humility and embrace the fact that he has zero clue how college basketball works but displays willingness to learn/adapt, and if Malone, unlike Belichick, has a GM who isn't a blowhard running around calling us the NBA's 31st team, this thing could work.

If he has the X's and O's and strategic chops such that we are rarely getting out-schemed, and if he has the ability and desire and patience to relate to and teach 19-year-old teenage players and their families- players who aren't nearly as talented, polished, or professional as the ones he's used to coaching in the NBA- then this may work out to be a good hire.

I'm not wowed or impressed by the NBA championship. Just like I wasn't wowed and impressed with the 6 NFL championships of Belichick's. As the Belichick disaster has shown us, those rings and titles are completely meaningless in actually preparing for, scheming for, and winning games at the collegiate level. What I am impressed by is that Malone is currently reportedly the target of 2-3 other NBA franchises for their head coaching positions. And I'm impressed by the reported willingness/desire to hire experienced collegiate coaches for his staff.

Ultimately, I do think that the odds are higher that this doesn't work out as successfully as we all hope it will in terms of restoring UNC basketball to the perennial top tier of college basketball. I do think that the learning curve of taking someone who has never been a collegiate head coach, and who has never expressed interest in being a collegiate head coach until he was out of work for a year and spent time on his daughter's college campus, and giving them the keys to arguably the highest-profile job in the sport, has a higher probability of being unsuccessful than being wildly successful.

But I'll be cheering hard for Malone and the Heels because he seems like someone who will be a great representative and ambassador of this great university and this basketball program which we all love. And I like cheering for good people. Go Heels!
 
Heck, Malone isn't even official yet.

"sources have confirmed to IC" that Martin "is expected to join Malone's initial UNC staff"...
I know - I just didn't want people to get the impression that the hire was official already.
 
Having had time to digest the news from yesterday, I think where I've ultimately landed on the Malone hire is "hopeful/optimistic skeptic." This is an extremely high risk-high reward hire, and I continue to be baffled that UNC adamantly refuses to ever hire conventional coachers for our two major sports anymore, but with this hire I can at least see the vision behind it, even if I may not fully agree with it. If Malone, unlike Belichick, is willing and able to surround himself with experienced collegiate coaches and recruiters, and if Malone, unlike Belichick, shows a willingness to display humility and embrace the fact that he has zero clue how college basketball works but displays willingness to learn/adapt, and if Malone, unlike Belichick, has a GM who isn't a blowhard running around calling us the NBA's 31st team, this thing could work.

If he has the X's and O's and strategic chops such that we are rarely getting out-schemed, and if he has the ability and desire and patience to relate to and teach 19-year-old teenage players and their families- players who aren't nearly as talented, polished, or professional as the ones he's used to coaching in the NBA- then this may work out to be a good hire.

I'm not wowed or impressed by the NBA championship. Just like I wasn't wowed and impressed with the 6 NFL championships of Belichick's. As the Belichick disaster has shown us, those rings and titles are completely meaningless in actually preparing for, scheming for, and winning games at the collegiate level. What I am impressed by is that Malone is currently reportedly the target of 2-3 other NBA franchises for their head coaching positions. And I'm impressed by the reported willingness/desire to hire experienced collegiate coaches for his staff.

Ultimately, I do think that the odds are higher that this doesn't work out as successfully as we all hope it will in terms of restoring UNC basketball to the perennial top tier of college basketball. I do think that the learning curve of taking someone who has never been a collegiate head coach, and who has never expressed interest in being a collegiate head coach until he was out of work for a year and spent time on his daughter's college campus, and giving them the keys to arguably the highest-profile job in the sport, has a higher probability of being unsuccessful than being wildly successful.

But I'll be cheering hard for Malone and the Heels because he seems like someone who will be a great representative and ambassador of this great university and this basketball program which we all love. And I like cheering for good people. Go Heels!
This is where I fall. A high risk/reward hire should be the default for Wake Forest or VT, not a blue blood. Malone has a very, very high ceiling but also a very low floor (due to lack of college experience and recruiting/NIL). That’s why he was likely a fall back option. It doesn’t mean he cannot be a great college coach, just that we are accepting a higher standard deviation than was anticipated.
 
This is where I fall. A high risk/reward hire should be the default for Wake Forest or VT, not a blue blood. Malone has a very, very high ceiling but also a very low floor (due to lack of college experience and recruiting/NIL). That’s why he was likely a fall back option. It doesn’t mean he cannot be a great college coach, just that we are accepting a higher standard deviation than was anticipated.
this is just pretty demonstrably false in this day and age. even blue bloods are not luring established, big-time coaches away from their comfortable current gigs.

kentucky was unable to do it a couple of years ago and i doubt kansas will be able to do it whenever self leaves. dook promoted from within.

all of the truly top tier, high ceiling high floor coaches were either unavailable or we weren't interested - stevens, lloyd, may, tjo, the uf creep, hurley, oats, etc. and aside from stevens, those guys were all the same type of high risk/reward hires a few years ago when they got picked up by their current schools. they were all either assistants or came from mid majors.
 
This is an extremely high risk-high reward hire
I see this as a medium-risk/high-reward hire.

Malone has had success in the NBA and is known as an Xs and Os guy. To me, that means his floor is pretty high unless he just can't relate to college-aged players or the time limits on coaching in CBB limit how much he can teach them. And, given his background, if he can figure out recruiting and working with lower talented players, the ceiling is the roof.

Maybe it's just me, but i see the bigger risk from Malone being that he is successful enough to not give Carolina a reason to fire him but not so successful that we compete for national championships. Not as up-and-down as HD, but teams that are consistently top 15 but not top 5. Which isn't the worst outcome, but would be rough at a school like Carolina.
 
I see this as a medium-risk/high-reward hire.

Malone has had success in the NBA and is known as an Xs and Os guy. To me, that means his floor is pretty high unless he just can't relate to college-aged players or the time limits on coaching in CBB limit how much he can teach them. And, given his background, if he can figure out recruiting and working with lower talented players, the ceiling is the roof.

Maybe it's just me, but i see the bigger risk from Malone being that he is successful enough to not give Carolina a reason to fire him but not so successful that we compete for national championships. Not as up-and-down as HD, but teams that are consistently top 15 but not top 5. Which isn't the worst outcome, but would be rough at a school like Carolina.
Just gotta get him some studs.

Open the effing checkbook!
 
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