UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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SnoopRob said:
There’s an Athletic article today that insinuates, but with no proof provided, that Jordon was the reason Carolina Football ended up not doing the offseason Hard Knocks show.

I really, really hope that it’s false.
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I think at this point, it is pretty clear that she is calling a lot of shots as it pertains to Belchick, so it would not surprise me in the slightest if she was the ultimate reason why the show got scuttled.

Even though I personally find it to be highly cringeworthy that there is a five decade age gap between the two of them, ultimately their romantic relationship is their business, so more power to them. Where I have a huge problem is that their romantic relationship is now beginning to cause problems for UNC. We hired Bill and are paying him $10 million per year because we thought we were getting the no nonsense, no bullshit, no distractions, fully consumed by football, detail oriented micro manager coaching savant to save our shitty football program. I don’t think we can honestly say that we are getting most, or really any, of those things to date. And that should be troubling for anyone who is a fan of UNC Football.
 
Agree. UNC purchased the BB brand as you outlined. What we saw was a pathetic old man being lead around by the nose by his hot, influencer girlfriend who clearly was calling the shots in the interview. This goes 100% against his brand.

Time for BB to head into repair mode.
 
www.usatoday.com

Bill Belichick-Jordon Hudson interview reveals North Carolina may be headed for train wreck

Bill Belichick's awkward book tour interview reveals unsettling oddities and whether relationship with girlfriend Jordon Hudson is concern for school.
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Headline: Bill Belichick-Jordon Hudson interview reveals in North Carolina may be headed for train wreck

"This can’t be what North Carolina believed it was getting. It just can’t. How someone, anyone, in that painfully dysfunctional group of misfits making decisions at North Carolina could not have seen this from a country mile is beyond comprehension."

"The meanest, toughest, gruffest coach in the history of coaches, the man who built an unassailable reputation as the hardest edge in the history of hard edges, was summarily emasculated on national television by his muse of 50 years the younger."

"Here’s the overriding problem: young people, specifically young people playing college football, are married to social media. It’s their lifeblood. The entire North Carolina locker room has seen the interview, and has seen the muse — who hangs out at practice, once in a sequined robe — kneecap their head coach. Their big, bad, Super Bowl-winning head coach."

"There’s a reason no NFL team, despite Belichick’s remarkable record, wanted any part of him over the last two hiring cycles. Who knows whether it's a reach to connect the dots. But it’s easy to see the car in the ditch from here."
 
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Ramrouser said:
Agree. UNC purchased the BB brand as you outlined. What we saw was a pathetic old man being lead around by the nose by his hot, influencer girlfriend who clearly was calling the shots in the interview. This goes 100% against his brand.

Time for BB to head into repair mode.
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I disagree. I think college is very different than the NFL. The NFL allows people to be more insulated. That’s Belichick’s wheelhouse. College requires more outward interaction and if I had to guess, BB recognized that and wasn’t happy he had to tackle that. His girlfriend then said she could do some of it and he was more than thrilled that he could focus on football and have her do whatever she’s doing. I think all of this will go away once the season starts. Folks are hungry for Belichick news and he hates all of that so he’s allowing her to fill the void. He’s incorrect in doing that but that’s the decision he’s made.
 
www.boston.com

Ex-Patriots Super Bowl champ: UNC should consider firing Bill Belichick

Former Patriots linebacker Ted Johnson thinks that North Carolina should consider firing Bill Belichick before he coaches his first game.
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Nice, now we have former Belichick Patriots players opining that we should fire him. Great look!

"I say all that to say this: That I think the Carolina Tar Heels should consider firing Bill Belichick,” Johnson said during WEEI Afternoons on Tuesday. “They should consider letting him go at this point. It’s a lot of money, and they’re deep into their preparation for next year. “But I look at Bill Belichick and I wonder if he’s fit to coach an NFL team, let alone fit to coach a college team, which, again, I put more onus on the character and personality of a college coach than I do a pro coach. So, I’m worried that Bill Belichick just isn’t fit to coach college kids, and UNC should consider cutting ties with Bill Belichick.”

Fellow WEEI host Andy Hart pushed back against Johnson’s take — asking what Belichick has done to warrant flak from the UNC administration, especially with no results to glean from on the field.

But Johnson stressed that the optics of Sunday’s interview paint a concerning picture of Belichick and his standing as the leader of a football program.

“I just think, just what you’ve seen so far,” Johnson responded. “The behaviors with Jordon, that dynamic, her being on the football field, her kind of just, I think, embarrassing Bill. People want to go, ‘Well, she’s taking control of Bill.’ You think Bill doesn’t have any say in how these things go? Of course he does. He’s okay with what she’s doing. He’s okay with her. You don’t think he knows that that email was being posted on her Instagram? Of course he knows. He’s signing off on that.

“And so to me, those are bad decisions that make him and the university look really bad, and question whether or not he is of sound mind and should be running a football team at the University of North Carolina. I think it’s just something you have to really, really consider. Just question the decision-making from the head coach at this point for those reasons.”
 
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I disagree. I think college is very different than the NFL. The NFL allows people to be more insulated. That’s Belichick’s wheelhouse. College requires more outward interaction and if I had to guess, BB recognized that and wasn’t happy he had to tackle that. His girlfriend then said she could do some of it and he was more than thrilled that he could focus on football and have her do whatever she’s doing. I think all of this will go away once the season starts. Folks are hungry for Belichick news and he hates all of that so he’s allowing her to fill the void. He’s incorrect in doing that but that’s the decision he’s made.
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I agree if UNC starts out 4-0 heading into the game with Clemson then all of this is footnote.
 
SnoopRob said:
There’s an Athletic article today that insinuates, but with no proof provided, that Jordon was the reason Carolina Football ended up not doing the offseason Hard Knocks show.

I really, really hope that it’s false.
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The way it is looking not having Hard Knocks here might be a real blessing.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
OTOH, people are actually talking about UNC football.
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That's true, for sure, but I've never been a subscriber to the notion that "all publicity is good publicity, even negative publicity." To me, it would be different if people were talking about UNC football and discussing how Belichick's non-nonsense, no-bullshit, no distractions approach and his keen eye for undeveloped talent are in the process of turning around one of the biggest perennial underachieving programs in the country. But that's not how we're being discussed.
 
CFordUNC said:
That's true, for sure, but I've never been a subscriber to the notion that "all publicity is good publicity, even negative publicity." To me, it would be different if people were talking about UNC football and discussing how Belichick's non-nonsense, no-bullshit, no distractions approach and his keen eye for undeveloped talent are in the process of turning around one of the biggest perennial underachieving programs in the country. But that's not how we're being discussed.
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Maybe it is a good thing we didn't get that Hard Knocks show after all.
 
Idk guys, like most fans I find the whole relationship bizarre and don’t love the negative news headlines, but I’m still in the camp that we’re going to have to see how the season plays out before declaring this to be anything more than off-season tabloid chatter.

If the team really struggles next season and we get a bunch of stories coming out that Belichick is half-assing the job, then yeah all of the stuff coming out now can be confirmed as major red flags in hindsight. Right now though I still don’t see any evidence that he isn’t taking the job seriously, which at the end of the day is all that matters to me. The program was in need of a major personnel overhaul, and while all of these TMZ articles are swirling about how Belichick had an awkward interview on CBS or whatever, the staff has quietly been very busy rebuilding the roster. Last time I checked they actually have a top 10 portal class (of course transfer portal rankings are very fickle, but still).
 
Honestly, the only thing I care about is our W/L record. All of this other nonsense is just unnecessary noise. Can we shut up already and let Bill Belichick do what he came here to do? JUST. LET. THE. MAN. COACH.
 
She attends practices and stands in the field next to BB.
My feeling is that this is a very bad sign.
But I’m often wrong and will wait to see how the team performs in the fall.
 
I'm with y'all, ultimately all of this is a footnote if we win ball games. That's what matters. None of us are going to care about all of this sideshow BS if we are winning football games. I certainly will not. Just win, baby.

That said, I think it's entirely reasonable to be skeptical that the on-field results are going to match the hype and the expectations that inherently come with having the most accomplished football coach of all time who is being paid $10 million per year. For starters, it's concerning in the first place that Mr. "Keep the main thing the main thing always, no distractions ever, we do things my way or the highway, nobody tells me what to do" is even allowing something like this Jordon Hudson nonsense to become a thing. And let's be very clear- it's happening because he is allowing it, or because he isn't putting a stop to it. He could, and he can, at any moment. That he hasn't or won't, is concerning. There is exactly 0% chance that this would have occurred for him when he was in his peak/prime with the Pats. No chance.

UNC isn't paying Belichick $10 million because of his sunny, rosy personality or his pleasant disposition or his ability to gladhand rich donors and boosters, or his charm and wit that wins over everyone in the school administration, the media, the fanbase, etc. UNC isn't paying him $10 million because we think he has Mack Brown's "equally comfortable in a boardroom full of billionaires as he is in blue jeans at a barbecue joint" persona. We're paying him $10 million because we hope that the obsessive, micromanaging, detail-oriented to a fault, gruff, non frills, no nonsense, no bullshit, no time for anything other than football kind of characteristics that made Belichick the most accomplished football coach of all time, can come here and light a fire under America's softest, most perpetually underachieving Power 4 football program. So if we're paying $10 million for that, and what we are *currently* getting is being the butt of jokes on every sports media and traditional media platform in the country specifically *because* he isn't eliminating distractions or nonsense....I'd say that is concerning.

I think it's great to be hopeful and optimistic about our chances of being a better football program under Belichick. I'm hopeful and optimistic about it. I want it to succeed. I just have a whole lot of skepticism, and it doesn't appear that I'm alone, judging by a lot of what we are hearing in the media from sources close to Belichick, from sources at UNC itself, from Belichick's former players, etc.

I definitely respect and understand the perspective of those who aren't concerned about this stuff, though, and who don't fid it to be a big deal. I'd much rather y'all be right than me!
 
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Peppers49 said:
Idk guys, like most fans I find the whole relationship bizarre and don’t love the negative news headlines, but I’m still in the camp that we’re going to have to see how the season plays out before declaring this to be anything more than off-season tabloid chatter.

If the team really struggles next season and we get a bunch of stories coming out that Belichick is half-assing the job, then yeah all of the stuff coming out now can be confirmed as major red flags in hindsight. Right now though I still don’t see any evidence that he isn’t taking the job seriously, which at the end of the day is all that matters to me. The program was in need of a major personnel overhaul, and while all of these TMZ articles are swirling about how Belichick had an awkward interview on CBS or whatever, the staff has quietly been very busy rebuilding the roster. Last time I checked they actually have a top 10 portal class (of course transfer portal rankings are very fickle, but still).
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I think you're right. I think this is a very good take on the whole situation.

My on-field concern about Belichick is that I don't feel that we've upgraded the roster nearly enough to be good *this* season, and I'm concerned that we don't have many seasons altogether for which Bill is going to be our coach. We're ranked #9 in the transfer portal rankings based on quantity but I think I saw that we are in the 20's or so when ranking based on quality. That's not bad, of course, but it's not great and I don't think it's what anyone expects who hired and pays Belichick $10 million a year. Now, granted, it's only the first offseason. Of course we have to give it time to see how it shakes out in the next year or two.
 
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