UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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Peppers49 said:
I don’t even think it’s a question that Kitchens will be gone after this season. I just worry that instead of trying to find a proven college OC, Belichick will end up sticking with the theme and bring in a retread NFL play caller.
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We hired Al Groh as DC when he got fired from uva. He had won a Superbowl with Bill Parcells and was head coach of the Jets for a bit. Everyone thought he was a brilliant defensive mind and we were lucky to get him.

And we were absolutely terrible under him. The knock His scheme was too complicated for college kids although he won a couple of ACC coach of the year at UVA so maybe our kids were just not capable of picking it up.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
We hired Al Groh as DC when he got fired from uva. He had won a Superbowl with Bill Parcells and was head coach of the Jets for a bit. Everyone thought he was a brilliant defensive mind and we were lucky to get him.

And we were absolutely terrible under him. The knock His scheme was too complicated for college kids although he won a couple of ACC coach of the year at UVA so maybe our kids were just not capable of picking it up.
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I don’t know, those Georgia Tech kids are pretty dang smart. One of my brothers-in-law was a mechanical engineering alum at Tech around that similar timeframe and said he had several football players in his courses and in group projects and they were all surprisingly brilliant, including a prominent household name.
 
CFordUNC said:
I don’t know, those Georgia Tech kids are pretty dang smart. One of my brothers-in-law was a mechanical engineering alum at Tech around that similar timeframe and said he had several football players in his courses and in group projects and they were all surprisingly brilliant, including a prominent household name.
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Yeah. I'm just kidding. They were all smart enough for legit college courses or they got moved along. Most were management majors but I was always really impressed with the TV athletes that were taking engineering courses.

But that was the knock on Groh. His scheme was too complicated for our kids.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Yeah. I'm just kidding. They were all smart enough for legit college courses or they got moved along. Most were management majors but I was always really impressed with the TV athletes that were taking engineering courses.

But that was the knock on Groh. His scheme was too complicated for our kids.
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Oh yeah, that is definitely a common theme when guys with predominantly NFL pedigrees come to the college ranks. It was true with Charlie Weiss, Al Groh, Bill O’Brien, Lovie Smith, and Herm Edwards. For whatever reason, those guys do not grasp that the time limit restrictions, practice limitations, film study limitations, etc. that do not exist in the professional ranks but certainly exist in the collegiate ranks, make it really difficult for college players to master NFL play calling and schematics. It was actually really interesting, I had two different coaches UNC, one who had coached in the NFL and brought a very distinct NFL style to the program, and the other who was exclusively a collegiate coach. I was one of the signal callers and it is incredible the difference in the complexity in NFL style play calling and concepts terminology versus college. The play sheet that I had from the NFL oriented coaching staff read like Latin compared to the college oriented staff’s.
 
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