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Overall interest is up as evidenced by our selling out Kenan for the season. Monday night viewership will be off the charts. As others have noted, it’s just that online interest is down for the reasons articulated. It will pick up this week now that the season is starting.

Can’t wait to watch some actual games today.
 
Yeah, I'm not so sure of that anymore. For the first time on my life, I really don't care much at all about UNC athletics
I feel you brother. I’m attributing much of my malaise to the current state of affairs in DC. My daughter has less rights than her mother did at her age and the war on intelligence/research will set us back a decade or more. I’m reminded of Butch Davis’ time here when the genome scientist from UNC won the Nobel Peace Prize and got $1million but Butch was being paid close to $3million!?!
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Overall interest is up as evidenced by our selling out Kenan for the season. Monday night viewership will be off the charts. As others have noted, it’s just that online interest is down for the reasons articulated. It will pick up this week now that the season is starting.

Can’t wait to watch some actual games today.
I think overall interest was up when season tickets sold out months ago for sure. I think outside interest is up still. I do not think interest is currently up among the core UNC fanbase at this moment.
 
I think overall interest was up when season tickets sold out months ago for sure. I think outside interest is up still. I do not think interest is currently up among the core UNC fanbase at this moment.
Its because many of us feel his hiring was the (almost) final nail in the coffin of the Carolina Way. Dean turning over in his grave. Hube the only remnant of it left and even he seems to be swimming upstream.
 
Obviously Carolina Way is gone and we would not be able to compete in the two major sports if we continued down that path. Our new AD is coming from NASCAR so there’s an indicator of where we’re headed.
 
Its because many of us feel his hiring was the (almost) final nail in the coffin of the Carolina Way. Dean turning over in his grave. Hube the only remnant of it left and even he seems to be swimming upstream.
Im sure that's the reason for some. It's not a reason for me necessarily. I just find it very hard to find connection to the athletes in college sports as the rosters turn over incessantly. Maybe I'm petty, but I would actually like the kid wearing pur jersey to have some remote idea of where Franklin Street is.
 
Obviously Carolina Way is gone and we would not be able to compete in the two major sports if we continued down that path. Our new AD is coming from NASCAR so there’s an indicator of where we’re headed.
Yeah, because NASCAR is clearly the success model to emulate.

And here's the thing for me...when it is all about winning, I will have ZERO patience for anything else. These are all professionals now and Im going to be pissed beyond belief when they lose a game because of that. And since we aren't ever going to win at a very high level, that seems to me to have sapped every bit of nostalgia and fun from it.
 
Im sure that's the reason for some. It's not a reason for me necessarily. I just find it very hard to find connection to the athletes in college sports as the rosters turn over incessantly. Maybe I'm petty, but I would actually like the kid wearing pur jersey to have some remote idea of where Franklin Street is.
It's very hard to to pull for a an ever changing roster of mercenaries. Not that I think the players are at fault, but without continuity It's hard to keep interest as a fan.
 
It's very hard to to pull for a an ever changing roster of mercenaries. Not that I think the players are at fault, but without continuity It's hard to keep interest as a fan.
I agree. I also think its going to be very hard to build a base of people willing to make the financial commitment necessary to fund these things at a high level. But we shall see. I do know that a lot of the pockets that the RC has relied upon for many years will be far less interested in giving in this environment.
 
Im sure that's the reason for some. It's not a reason for me necessarily. I just find it very hard to find connection to the athletes in college sports as the rosters turn over incessantly. Maybe I'm petty, but I would actually like the kid wearing pur jersey to have some remote idea of where Franklin Street is.
Like you, I remember players such as Mike Pepper, Pete Chilcutt, Kevin Salvadori, Scott Cherry, Shammond Williams, Jackie Manuel, Seth Trimble, Jeff Saturday, Mack Hollins, Javonte Williams, etc. progress from where they were as freshman to becoming valuable, highly contributing.

That’s part of the fun of watching college sports.
 
I think overall interest was up when season tickets sold out months ago for sure. I think outside interest is up still. I do not think interest is currently up among the core UNC fanbase at this moment.
I suspect college sports are going to lose a lot of popularity across the board because of the factors we've been talking about: it's hard to root for a team when you don't know any of the players. Even pro teams don't have this much turnover. It's especially hard to get excited in the offseason when everyone is new.

This is why, in my opinion, the antitrust judgments have gone way too far. Antitrust is not supposed to be a death knell for an entire industry.

It's also hard when you don't know who your rivals are. Part of that is conference re-alignment, but part of it is also that teams can buy themselves into contention all of a sudden. In the old days, if you weren't following carefully, you could still be pretty confident that UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, etc. would be among the best teams most years. One or two might have a down year, but usually the UK-UNC game in December was big. Now, teams can suddenly buy themselves stars, and I'm like -- since when is Auburn a 1 seed? St. Johns a 2?
 
I suspect college sports are going to lose a lot of popularity across the board because of the factors we've been talking about: it's hard to root for a team when you don't know any of the players. Even pro teams don't have this much turnover. It's especially hard to get excited in the offseason when everyone is new.

This is why, in my opinion, the antitrust judgments have gone way too far. Antitrust is not supposed to be a death knell for an entire industry.

It's also hard when you don't know who your rivals are. Part of that is conference re-alignment, but part of it is also that teams can buy themselves into contention all of a sudden. In the old days, if you weren't following carefully, you could still be pretty confident that UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, etc. would be among the best teams most years. One or two might have a down year, but usually the UK-UNC game in December was big. Now, teams can suddenly buy themselves stars, and I'm like -- since when is Auburn a 1 seed? St. Johns a 2?
It is always possible that cfb will kill the golden goose. Cbb certaintly is not as popular as it was 40 years ago. But as of today, cfb media rights are higher than they have ever been, and in-person attendance (and suite purchases) remain very strong. The sport is printing money right now, which is strong evidence of its health (especially from an antitrust perspective).
 
It is always possible that cfb will kill the golden goose. Cbb certaintly is not as popular as it was 40 years ago. But as of today, cfb media rights are higher than they have ever been, and in-person attendance (and suite purchases) remain very strong. The sport is printing money right now, which is strong evidence of its health (especially from an antitrust perspective).
OK, you know more about the whole business than I do. It's true that I'm more of a hoops fan, and the factors I identified there are going to be stronger in hoops. Obviously one sees the players more in hoops, and there can't be that much turnover on a football team because of sheer numbers.

Still, it seems to me that the NFL is doing really well too. Is CFB doing better than the NFL, or is it doing worse but what's happening is that football is just getting more popular?
 
OK, you know more about the whole business than I do. It's true that I'm more of a hoops fan, and the factors I identified there are going to be stronger in hoops. Obviously one sees the players more in hoops, and there can't be that much turnover on a football team because of sheer numbers.

Still, it seems to me that the NFL is doing really well too. Is CFB doing better than the NFL, or is it doing worse but what's happening is that football is just getting more popular?
Of course CFB isn’t doing better than the NFL. The NFL is the most popular sport in this country by a mile.
 
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