UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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Line opens up with MooU favored by an even 7 over UNC.
Am considering selling a kidney and other viable organs to load up on the Wolfpeckers.
This game has blowout written all over it.
Talk me out of it, if you can....
 


Jordan Hudson is probably dead last on the list of things about which I dislike/disagree with this whole Belichick fiasco, but this is still so unbelievably cringe that she continues to do stuff like this. And, yes, I agree that Pablo Torre is #obsessed.
 
Line opens up with MooU favored by an even 7 over UNC.
Am considering selling a kidney and other viable organs to load up on the Wolfpeckers.
This game has blowout written all over it.
Talk me out of it, if you can....
You may need that kidney someday.

Other than that, it seems a solid idea. :ROFLMAO:
 


Jordan Hudson is probably dead last on the list of things about which I dislike/disagree with this whole Belichick fiasco, but this is still so unbelievably cringe that she continues to do stuff like this. And, yes, I agree that Pablo Torre is #obsessed.

Pablo Torre is a podcaster for whom there is very, very little bad publicity.

But this is embarrassing for Hudson - and, by extension, Bill Belichick - to let Torre know that he lives rent-free in her head.
 
The BOT obviously has power, the power the State of NC and the BOG has delegated to them. To deny that they have power is simply wrong on the face of the claim.

From a procedural perspective, Roberts could have clearly decided not to hire Belichick. But practically-speaking, as a Republican who has hitched his professional wagon to the Republican Party in NC for his current position, he would need an overwhelming reason to refrain from hiring someone with the CV of Bill Belichick because if he says no then every person from Preyer to Thom Tillis to Marco Rubio and all of their associates are going to wonder why UNC didn't hire Belichick for it's open position. And then Roberts is going to have to defend himself from whatever crap rolls back downhill as the repercussions of such a decision. So while Roberts had the technical ability to not hire Belichick, he would have been absolutely stupid to do so without an overwhelmingly good reason due what would have been the resulting fallout.

I'm sure that Belichick interviewed well, as he's a football-lifer and knows a lot about the game. I mean, it wasn't like he was going to walk into a meeting with Roberts and say, "Yeah, I'm one of the greatest coaches of all time but I'm at a point in my career where my 24 year old girlfriend leads me around by my dick and I plan to load my staff with my family, my underachieving buddies and their family, and whomever else I know sitting around the KFC while firing everyone I don't know without good reason and I'm so arrogant I won't recognize that I'm in entirely over my head until my team gets its head crushed in on the field numerous times."

So, in short, by the time Preyer got involved and offered Belichick the job and ran off all other serious applicants, Roberts had very little real world choices other than to hire Belichick if he valued his own position.
Again. Disagree strongly. Roberts thought Belichick was the best candidate. Preyer was slapped HARD by Hans and that was coordinated with Roberts. Do not let Roberts off the hook here.
 
Do you mean average rating isn't a meaningful way to compare different recruiting classes across different eras, or that average player rating in a particular individual class isn't a meaningful way to rank that class? If it's the former, I probably agree with that, although I do think it's at least somewhat relevant to be able to make a determination of the level of roster talent a team had relative to its competition at any given time.
A 35 person class with 15 four stars and 20 three stars is a much better class than a 20 person class with 10 four stars and 10 three stars.

It really doesn’t matter if you fill out a class with a bunch of sleepers that will transfer if they don’t cut it. The key is the quantity of elite talent.

Average rating was much more relevant prior to 105 scholarships and the transfer portal.
 
So that's kind of another "myth" that needs dispelled, IMO. Last year's defense was ranked 70th in FPI. This year's is 80th, with fewer sacks, against worse competition. Are individual defensive players having solid seasons? Definitely. Is the defense overall playing with more physicality than it has in a while? I think it is. But it's still plagued by poor tackling, undisciplined play leading to bonehead penalties, and inability to get off the field on 3rd and 4th down. It's not an absolutely godawful-dreadful defense like we mostly had under Fedora and Mack, but it's still mostly a below average defense. All of our supposed defensive improvement has come because we've played really poor offenses *for the most part *over the last month and a half (Virginia and Duke are good offenses, to be fair. Cal, Syracuse, Stanford, and Wake are not).
I think if you removed the first half of the season, when we were starting guys who weren't even here for spring, you'd have very different rank. A ton of guys, Isiah Johnson & Melkhart for example , look like different players.
 
A 35 person class with 15 four stars and 20 three stars is a much better class than a 20 person class with 10 four stars and 10 three stars.

It really doesn’t matter if you fill out a class with a bunch of sleepers that will transfer if they don’t cut it. The key is the quantity of elite talent.

Average rating was much more relevant prior to 105 scholarships and the transfer portal.
And we have more 4+ than Mack ever signed.
 
I think if you removed the first half of the season, when we were starting guys who weren't even here for spring, you'd have very different rank. A ton of guys, Isiah Johnson & Melkhart for example , look like different players.
Could be, but we were bad defensively against Wake Forest, who is a really poor offense. They had their best offensive showing all season and highest yards per carry against anyone not named Western Carolina. We’ve improved over the TCU and Clemson games, but only because there was nowhere to go but up from those two defensive disasters.

I’ll put it this way, our defense does not look like it is coached by the greatest defensive mastermind the NFL has ever seen. That has surprised me more than anything else. It’s certainly much better than the offense, no doubt, but it is a below average defense overall. I did not expect us to be the 1985 Bears by any means but I expected to be far better than what we’ve been.
 
A 35 person class with 15 four stars and 20 three stars is a much better class than a 20 person class with 10 four stars and 10 three stars.

It really doesn’t matter if you fill out a class with a bunch of sleepers that will transfer if they don’t cut it. The key is the quantity of elite talent.

Average rating was much more relevant prior to 105 scholarships and the transfer portal.
I disagree because there is an opportunity cost to giving out 35 scholarships to HSers in a year.

A good program that maximizes continuity (which is still important in the portal era) shouldn't have a third of its scholarships to hand out to HS recruits.

If you're completely devoid of talent and unable to recruit experienced talent through the portal, then a huge one-off HS class would be the way to go rather than letting scholarships go unused. But it should only be a last resort type of action and is indicative of failure in recruiting in previous years and through the portal.
 
Again. Disagree strongly. Roberts thought Belichick was the best candidate. Preyer was slapped HARD by Hans and that was coordinated with Roberts. Do not let Roberts off the hook here.
I'm not "let[ting] Roberts off the hook", but by the time Preyer got done making offers and leaking details to the press, we had almost no leverage and that wasn't Roberts' fault in any real way.

If Preyer had quietly passed Belichick's interest on to Roberts and then gotten out of the way, I'd be willing to assign a lot more blame to Roberts. But that's not what happened. Preyer made Belichick a job offer and leaked enough details of Belichick's interest to scare away any other reasonable parties. At that point, the search became Belichick or completely start over with egg on our face and going with Belichick was the only rational path forward absent very substantial proof of why it would be a bad idea.

I do not like Lee Roberts as UNC Chancellor and I would be the first on here cheering if he were relieved of his duties tomorrow. But this hire largely wasn't his doing other than he didn't use tremendous political capital to stop it. I'm not going to blame him for something that he realistically had very little control over.
 
I agree with all of this. The only thing I'd add is that QB especially matters and we did a terrible job in the off-season (and, perhaps, in the season?) at that position.
I would say point out that Ashford is a horrendous QB for Wake, which makes what they’re doing even more impressive
 
A 35 person class with 15 four stars and 20 three stars is a much better class than a 20 person class with 10 four stars and 10 three stars.

It really doesn’t matter if you fill out a class with a bunch of sleepers that will transfer if they don’t cut it. The key is the quantity of elite talent.

Average rating was much more relevant prior to 105 scholarships and the transfer portal.
Lots of big recruits in town this weekend and vibes seem positive. Hoping we get some good news this week. We need some. Class just keeps getting better despite on field woes.

ETA : specifically there are some who think the Cleveland kid, 4 star DT, has flipped from Texas and is a silent commit.
 
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I disagree because there is an opportunity cost to giving out 35 scholarships to HSers in a year.

A good program that maximizes continuity (which is still important in the portal era) shouldn't have a third of its scholarships to hand out to HS recruits.

If you're completely devoid of talent and unable to recruit experienced talent through the portal, then a huge one-off HS class would be the way to go rather than letting scholarships go unused. But it should only be a last resort type of action and is indicative of failure in recruiting in previous years and through the portal.
The opportunity cost with giving out 10 flyer scholarships is a lot less in 2026 than it was 2016. As a result, average star rating is not nearly as important in 2026 as it was in 2016.

I don't disagree with you that taking a bunch of flyers every year is not a great program building strategy. But that is a separate issue from ranking classes based on average star ranking.

At a minimum, if you are going to rank on an average basis, you should cut off at the top 20 recruits. A football team is not made worse by adding sleepers if there is space.
 
I'm not "let[ting] Roberts off the hook", but by the time Preyer got done making offers and leaking details to the press, we had almost no leverage and that wasn't Roberts' fault in any real way.

If Preyer had quietly passed Belichick's interest on to Roberts and then gotten out of the way, I'd be willing to assign a lot more blame to Roberts. But that's not what happened. Preyer made Belichick a job offer and leaked enough details of Belichick's interest to scare away any other reasonable parties. At that point, the search became Belichick or completely start over with egg on our face and going with Belichick was the only rational path forward absent very substantial proof of why it would be a bad idea.

I do not like Lee Roberts as UNC Chancellor and I would be the first on here cheering if he were relieved of his duties tomorrow. But this hire largely wasn't his doing other than he didn't use tremendous political capital to stop it. I'm not going to blame him for something that he realistically had very little control over.
I do not accept in any way the notion that Preyer somehow forced Roberts hand.

You seem to be of the opinion that once Campbell (not realistic) and Sumrall (never liked him) were off the board, we were somehow forced to hire Belichick. Nonsense. We could have hired Chesney at the drop of the hat. There were many, many other coaches available, too.

The sad fact is that we were not interested in any one else because everyone got stars in their eyes and convinced themselves that Belichick was exactly who we needed to hire. Shoot, even Bubba seemed to warm up to the idea after a while (after all, he interviewed Belichick with Roberts -- if Bubba wanted to deep six the hire, he could have poisoned the well).

Yes, Preyer helped to force the issue, but your recounting of an all powerful BoT hiring Belichick is historical revisionism. Roberts owns this one.
 
Again. Disagree strongly. Roberts thought Belichick was the best candidate. Preyer was slapped HARD by Hans and that was coordinated with Roberts. Do not let Roberts off the hook here.
I think belichicks 200 page blah blah blew away Roberts
Like having a written plan was gonna get it done for a guy hasn't coached college ever ...........
 
I think the rumor of the 400 page football manifesto was either outright BS or greatly exaggerated. Bill can’t even be bothered to show any emotion or interact with his staff and players on the sideline in any way, shape, or form. Hard for me to see him caring enough to be bothered to write some supposed manual for how to dominate college football.
 
Line opens up with MooU favored by an even 7 over UNC.
Am considering selling a kidney and other viable organs to load up on the Wolfpeckers.
This game has blowout written all over it.
Talk me out of it, if you can....
If you do that then you just know that it’ll end up being a really close game that we find a ridiculous way to lose at the end and State still covers.
 
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