UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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gregh1 said:
What's wrong with throwing cash at players?
a) That is what college sports is all about now. Players aren't going anywhere without some compensation unless they are mediocre. The well, the bell, the stone walls.... the banners or the coaching cachet are no longer the primary selling points for studs.

b) The cash-infusion was one of the biggest selling points of the BB experiment. Matt Campbell, or Sumrall or the next Fedora weren't going to get the $ promises that BB demanded for NIL, revshare. Regardless of the coach we hired last Dec it was going to take $ to potentially build us up to anything.
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Oh, I completely agree with you. Absolutely nothing wrong with throwing cash at players. It's the name of the game now, no doubt. And I'm glad we are playing the game.

My problem is that we are apparently spending like drunken sailors to secure the services of high school players. Money is finite, so every dollar that we spend trying to flip 17 year old players from Ohio State, Texas, Michigan, Florida State, etc. is a dollar we likely won't have to try to bring 22- and 23-year-old experienced OL or an instant-impact QB. The fact that so many national folks are openly talking about how we are throwing money at players and that other schools aren't willing to match it says a lot to me about our strategy.

Our strategy is fine if we have a 44, 54, or even 64-year-old head coach. It's fine if we aren't paying a $20M football staff to win and win now. It's fine if we were told the entire time from day 1 that this is an intentional 3-4 year rebuild from the ground up specifically focusing on a "youth movement." It's fine if we aren't coming off of a 4-8 season in which we fielded arguably the worst team in modern UNC history and need to win probably double that amount of games next year- against an exponentially tougher schedule- in order to ensure that this staff even deserves a third year. But none of the above is true, so our strategy is dubious at best and boneheaded at worst.
 
Good to see the staff is having success attracting some HS talent*

Two big caveats that limit my enjoyment of the recruiting class:
1. I'm much more interested in success in 2026 over potential success in 27 or 28 when these recruits may be ready to contribute
2. I'm highly skeptical the staff will have the necessary resources and the player evaluation accuracy needed to plug the glaring holes in the 2-deep
 
gregh1 said:
What's wrong with throwing cash at players?
a) That is what college sports is all about now. Players aren't going anywhere without some compensation unless they are mediocre. The well, the bell, the stone walls.... the banners or the coaching cachet are no longer the primary selling points for studs.

b) The cash-infusion was one of the biggest selling points of the BB experiment. Matt Campbell, or Sumrall or the next Fedora weren't going to get the $ promises that BB demanded for NIL, revshare. Regardless of the coach we hired last Dec it was going to take $ to potentially build us up to anything.
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that it is the opposite of the advantage bill was supposed to provide. he was supposed to be a football genuis who, given equal resources to peers near the top of the sport, could build a team to his liking, find diamonds in the rough based on traits that others might overlook, and get a result that was greater than the sum of its parts.

right now, the evidence is that he and Lombardi are doing nothing more than overpaying players that their peers have decided aren't actually worth that much and building classes so big that it's statistically improbable that nobody works out. far from being a tactical, considerate, intelligent approach, we have a staff that is doing the football equivalent of putting 10000 kindergartners in a room to recreate Shakespeare.
 
gregh1 said:
The highlight "welcome" from prior gridiron tar heels has been cool. From old guys like Harris Barton to current pros like Javonte, like
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Mitch Trubisky is a “Carolina legend?” His one year as a starter UNC was 8-5 (5-3); losing 3 of its last 4, including against d00k and ncsulol (the win was VMI).
 
Any reason to believe these new recruits going to be more motivated, more disciplined, play better assignment football, commit fewer penalties, and be all round better coached?

I'll hang up and listen. Thanks.
 
Even if I do admittedly find their relationship extremely cringey, ultimately their relationship is none of my business and I truly, truly, truly do not care about it in the slightest *other than* stuff exactly like this that only serves to continue to reinforce what a clown show circus runs our football program. If our 74 year old coach dated a regular run of the mill 24 year old who doesnt have main character syndrome and who doesnt insert herself into the limelight at every opportunity, I wouldn’t say anything. But as it is, her continued presence in the limelight and our head coach’s continued allowing and enabling of it only serves to lend further credence to the notion that we have completely unserious leadership of our program.
 
CFordUNC said:


Sigh.
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It’s unreal that no one from UNC has been able to step in and say enough is enough with the girlfriend bullshit haha. The play on the field is embarrassing enough already without giving the rest of the country even more ammo to laugh at us.

To your point, it’s just another piece added to the massive pile of evidence that the people calling the shots for the program are unserious.
 
Batt Boy said:
He actually completed a pass for a safety. Look it up. That’s how poor the scheme was
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Will never forget that. Will never ever forget now ear-splitting defeating the UGA fans got after that play. Knew we had lost the game then and there even though we still technically led after the safety.
 
akillesheel said:
that it is the opposite of the advantage bill was supposed to provide. he was supposed to be a football genuis who, given equal resources to peers near the top of the sport, could build a team to his liking, find diamonds in the rough based on traits that others might overlook, and get a result that was greater than the sum of its parts.

right now, the evidence is that he and Lombardi are doing nothing more than overpaying players that their peers have decided aren't actually worth that much and building classes so big that it's statistically improbable that nobody works out. far from being a tactical, considerate, intelligent approach, we have a staff that is doing the football equivalent of putting 10000 kindergartners in a room to recreate Shakespeare.
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Jimmy & Joes > X & O's. Coaches can set the floor, but players set the ceiling. 4 wins is an ugly floor, but a remotely decent QB on this team would've changed that. We're all familiar with mediocrity and poor seasons, now we need cash if we want more.
(I think BB is famous for saying that character sets the ceiling... but he's referring to players alone and not including coaching impact)
 
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