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Fair to whom?When next season is over, will it be fair to straight up compare the 2026 season results of UNC/Belichick to VaTech/Franklin?
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Fair to whom?When next season is over, will it be fair to straight up compare the 2026 season results of UNC/Belichick to VaTech/Franklin?
Oh, then probably not.Everyone
yesWhen next season is over, will it be fair to straight up compare the 2026 season results of UNC/Belichick to VaTech/Franklin?
There’s obviously no exact way to measure fan angst but it is an interesting topic.I know you do more than your share and are well connected but I swear the UNC fans I know, and there are a bunch, don't share the angst I see in this board. Disappointed? Yep. But willing to see this through. As for the money, I think as long as we show progress in recruiting and on the field it will not dry up. So I guess we will see.
I think the outlook on BB falls significantly on political lines because he was, quite factually, a partisan political play wrapped up as a football coach.I know you do more than your share and are well connected but I swear the UNC fans I know, and there are a bunch, don't share the angst I see in this board. Disappointed? Yep. But willing to see this through. As for the money, I think as long as we show progress in recruiting and on the field it will not dry up. So I guess we will see.
Charter Schools and Bill BelichickI think the outlook on BB falls significantly on political lines because he was, quite factually, a partisan political play wrapped up as a football coach.
Not strictly, my father in law is deep in the bullshit and he’s still Anti-bellichick (he blamed it on unc going woke, which was so dumb i couldn’t even argue). But i think, if your pro-Bellichick at this pt, we know who you voted forI think the outlook on BB falls significantly on political lines because he was, quite factually, a partisan political play wrapped up as a football coach.
Not a single coach out here would avoid us firing Bellichick. There may be a few that won’t come here because of this whole farce though. Hiring Bellichick and Lombardi and running it back after it wasLot of talk about money being spent. I am 68 and have been UNC football fan since I saw don McCauley run over dook defenders. Pretty much that entire time the biggest complaint was we were not committed to football financially. Then we fork out bi dollars for arguably the best coach of all time, money pours in, and we suck bad in the field. BTW, a person is paid for what they have done not what they will do. In that regard BB in line. Lombo,maybe not so much. Lombo apparently is also very good at raising money. Did it affect me? Yes, I paid a little more for eight season tix. The $13 Bud Light save me money as I now watch games sober, a bad year to debut that strategy. Also I find funny that mack was too nice and BB is too mean. Anyhow, while I am seen here as a BB apologist what I actually am is someone who wants to see this deal get a chance to succeed. If BB were fired tomorrow he will have left us a hell of a foundation with this class and finagled a commitment out of the administration..he did it with strong headwinds by the media (did anyone read DeCock's shrill masterpiece, his ability to predict the future, a composition assembled while he was seething over BBs 4 minute PC?) and folks working on the inside to take him down. This may not work. But we are beyond the point of turning around. No coachee out there and not sure many want to go to a school that fires the guy with 8 rings after 12 games.
You think coaches want to go to a place where you get one year?Not strictly, my father in law is deep in the bullshit and he’s still Anti-bellichick (he blamed it on unc going woke, which was so dumb i couldn’t even argue). But i think, if your pro-Bellichick at this pt, we know who you voted for
Not a single coach out here would avoid us firing Bellichick. There may be a few that won’t come here because of this whole farce though. Hiring Bellichick and Lombardi and running it back after it was
proven to be an unmitigated disaster proves how unserious we are
I think coaches are smart enough to realize this was a farce, will see the monetary commitment and the fact that typically if you win 8 games you get as long as you like as long as you’re not a giant assholeYou think coaches want to go to a place where you get one year?
Coaches are just as transactional as everyone else in college football now.You think coaches want to go to a place where you get one year?
Bingo. The rest of the country is laughing at how ridiculous the situation is. If we had pulled the plug after this season then no potential replacement coach worth their salt would have seen that as a red flag.Not a single coach out here would avoid us firing Bellichick. There may be a few that won’t come here because of this whole farce though. Hiring Bellichick and Lombardi and running it back after it was
proven to be an unmitigated disaster proves how unserious we are
As a counterexample, I'm "it's too early to declare this an unfixable failure," but most here probably would label me as pro-Belichick. I've never voted for a pub, nor a magat, and my personal beliefs are pretty far away from anyone on that political side.Not strictly, my father in law is deep in the bullshit and he’s still Anti-bellichick (he blamed it on unc going woke, which was so dumb i couldn’t even argue). But i think, if your pro-Bellichick at this pt, we know who you voted for.
Yeah, I dont think it is a perfect barometer but I do think it is an instructive observation. I made it because I would hazard a guess that most of the UNC fans that Heel79 hangs eith are of a pretty conservative political ilk.As a counterexample, I'm "it's too early to declare this an unfixable failure," but most here probably would label me as pro-Belichick. I've never voted for a pub, nor a magat, and my personal beliefs are pretty far away from anyone on that political side.
I have not seen a political element to it at all, truthfully, except on here. A lot of these people are UNC grads, fraternity brothers, and a lot of them are pretty liberal. Now there are also a lot of folks from the neighborhood, so to speak, largely POC who are UNC fans, not graduates, who do not know who Lee Roberts is, Preyer, etc., but just root for UNC.Yeah, I dont think it is a perfect barometer but I do think it is an instructive observation. I made it because I would hazard a guess that most of the UNC fans that Heel79 hangs eith are of a pretty conservative political ilk.
Going even further out on that limb, I wonder how much not wanting to fire a coach after one year and being MAGA go together around "proper respect for authority and hierarchy"?Yeah, I dont think it is a perfect barometer but I do think it is an instructive observation. I made it because I would hazard a guess that most of the UNC fans that Heel79 hangs eith are of a pretty conservative political ilk.
Mack typically won 8 games, wasn’t a giant asshole, and didn’t get to stay as long as he liked.I think coaches are smart enough to realize this was a farce, will see the monetary commitment and the fact that typically if you win 8 games you get as long as you like as long as you’re not a giant asshole
How many coaches in basketball or football have been fired after one year?Going even further out on that limb, I wonder how much not wanting to fire a coach after one year and being MAGA go together around "proper respect for authority and hierarchy"?
I did the football side. The answer was zero unless there were very significant off the field issues. It occasionally happens in the NFL.How many coaches in basketball or football have been fired after one year?
Out of curiosity, who were (some of) those fired after a single season?I did the football side. The answer was zero unless there were very significant off the field issues. It occasionally happens in the NFL.