UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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Calheel said:
Mack typically won 8 games, wasn’t a giant asshole, and didn’t get to stay as long as he liked.
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He won 8 3 out of 6 years, was on a downward trend, lost multiple games as 2-3 TD faves with an mvp caliber QB, was pretty narcissistic and belittling to the fan base, was 73 and looking ever bit of it, and quit mid season and then tried to manipulate his way back while the AD was in Hawaii. it took all of that for him to be fired
 
stankeylegjones said:
Thanks!
I remember Price and the strip club fiasco. From what I remember about O'Leary it was bullshit excuse to get rid of him, right? Basically he slightly padded his resume, right?
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Not really slightly
George O'Leary resigned as Notre Dame football coach less than a week after being hired, following revelations that he lied about his academic and athletic background.

O'Leary claimed to have a master's degree in education and to have played college football for three years, but checks into his background showed it wasn't true.
 
SnoopRob said:
Going even further out on that limb, I wonder how much not wanting to fire a coach after one year and being MAGA go together around "proper respect for authority and hierarchy"?
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If you guys are going to play mental gymnastics, i'll give my anecdote that NONE of my liberal UNC friends have mentioned Jordon. Meanwhile on this board.... Meanwhile the sexist, misogynistic maga dudes on 247 are freaking out.
 
mpaer said:
Not really slightly
George O'Leary resigned as Notre Dame football coach less than a week after being hired, following revelations that he lied about his academic and athletic background.

O'Leary claimed to have a master's degree in education and to have played college football for three years, but checks into his background showed it wasn't true.
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Ah, thanks. I thought he only said he played more than he actually did while in college.
 
farce© said:
When next season is over, will it be fair to straight up compare the 2026 season results of UNC/Belichick to VaTech/Franklin?
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Vatech's results SHOULD be better than BB's.

BB burned down the personnel dept a few days into the winter portal and not far from the final signing day, then dragged his feet hiring assistants. Both of these things make it hard to assemble a talented team.

In contrast Franklin:
a) brought all these guys, with their portal and HS rolodexes.
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1moretimeagain said:
Good thing they fired their coach early and got a jump on the coaching search.
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PSU eventually signed two by end of day. There's a second signing day, but lots of talent will be gone by then. And fortunately there's the portal.

Since coaching firings and hirings happen right when portal AND signing day are happening, I think the Athletic Directors need to gain more control of football personnel operations by separating GM versus HC duties. At UNC we have a GM, but he's a BB henchman. PSU had them, but they seem like Franklin accolytes. Ideally these two would report...

b) set his coaches quickly.

c) Finally he flipped 12 HS recruits from PSU, and is likely snagging portal transfers from PSU.

VATech and Franklin are doing the rights things, things we should've started at halftime of the JMU game when they were up 50-something to 21.
 
gregh1 said:
Vatech's results SHOULD be better than BB's.

BB burned down the personnel dept a few days into the winter portal and not far from the final signing day, then dragged his feet hiring assistants. Both of these things make it hard to assemble a talented team.

In contrast Franklin:
a) brought all these guys, with their portal and HS rolodexes.
G

Sports Post in thread 'College Football Catch-All Thread'

1moretimeagain said:
Good thing they fired their coach early and got a jump on the coaching search.
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PSU eventually signed two by end of day. There's a second signing day, but lots of talent will be gone by then. And fortunately there's the portal.

Since coaching firings and hirings happen right when portal AND signing day are happening, I think the Athletic Directors need to gain more control of football personnel operations by separating GM versus HC duties. At UNC we have a GM, but he's a BB henchman. PSU had them, but they seem like Franklin accolytes. Ideally these two would report...

b) set his coaches quickly.

c) Finally he flipped 12 HS recruits from PSU, and is likely snagging portal transfers from PSU.

VATech and Franklin are doing the rights things, things we should've started at halftime of the JMU game when they were up 50-something to 21.
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It will be Belichick’s second season, so he’ll have had ample time to make for his delay in hiring staff initially.
 
1moretimeagain said:
It will be Belichick’s second season, so he’ll have had ample time to make for his delay in hiring staff initially.
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Oh, i misread the question, oopsie. Yeah, BB's had a whole yr to learn some lessons that he should've already learned from Nick Saban and his son.

(i mean, W/L will probably come down to QB play, but there's not reason all the other stuff shouldn't be better at UNC compared to VaTech given the bags of money, facilities, etc)
 
uncjhodges said:
He won 8 3 out of 6 years, was on a downward trend, lost multiple games as 2-3 TD faves with an mvp caliber QB, was pretty narcissistic and belittling to the fan base, was 73 and looking ever bit of it, and quit mid season and then tried to manipulate his way back while the AD was in Hawaii. it took all of that for him to be fired
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Mack was fired because we gave up 70 to JMU. Wasting Maye and Howe and having a skill set that wasn't valuable in the NIL era didn't help his cause, nor did his age.

But I strongly disagree with anyone who claims that you can go 8-4 as long as you like at UNC. Once you establish an 8 win baseline, fans expect more. I don't think Dave Doereen can stay as long as he wants at State (and he is pretty much the standard for above average most years) and I don't think a perennial Charlotte Bowl appearance keeps you employed at UNC.
 
gregh1 said:
If you guys are going to play mental gymnastics, i'll give my anecdote that NONE of my liberal UNC friends have mentioned Jordon. Meanwhile on this board.... Meanwhile the sexist, misogynistic maga dudes on 247 are freaking out.
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It is not sexist or misogynistic to detest that the spouse of our head football coach is a constant circus.

Do you think it would be homophobic for me to think it about a 24 year old boy-toy wearing nut huggers and fawning on Bill on the sidelines? Because I surely would think and say it then too.
 
gregh1 said:
Vatech's results SHOULD be better than BB's.

BB burned down the personnel dept a few days into the winter portal and not far from the final signing day, then dragged his feet hiring assistants. Both of these things make it hard to assemble a talented team.

In contrast Franklin:
a) brought all these guys, with their portal and HS rolodexes.
G

Sports Post in thread 'College Football Catch-All Thread'

1moretimeagain said:
Good thing they fired their coach early and got a jump on the coaching search.
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PSU eventually signed two by end of day. There's a second signing day, but lots of talent will be gone by then. And fortunately there's the portal.

Since coaching firings and hirings happen right when portal AND signing day are happening, I think the Athletic Directors need to gain more control of football personnel operations by separating GM versus HC duties. At UNC we have a GM, but he's a BB henchman. PSU had them, but they seem like Franklin accolytes. Ideally these two would report...

b) set his coaches quickly.

c) Finally he flipped 12 HS recruits from PSU, and is likely snagging portal transfers from PSU.

VATech and Franklin are doing the rights things, things we should've started at halftime of the JMU game when they were up 50-something to 21.
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So Belichick in year 2 SHOULD be behind Franklin in year 1?
 
gregh1 said:
Vatech's results SHOULD be better than BB's.

BB burned down the personnel dept a few days into the winter portal and not far from the final signing day, then dragged his feet hiring assistants. Both of these things make it hard to assemble a talented team.

In contrast Franklin:
a) brought all these guys, with their portal and HS rolodexes.
G

Sports Post in thread 'College Football Catch-All Thread'

1moretimeagain said:
Good thing they fired their coach early and got a jump on the coaching search.
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PSU eventually signed two by end of day. There's a second signing day, but lots of talent will be gone by then. And fortunately there's the portal.

Since coaching firings and hirings happen right when portal AND signing day are happening, I think the Athletic Directors need to gain more control of football personnel operations by separating GM versus HC duties. At UNC we have a GM, but he's a BB henchman. PSU had them, but they seem like Franklin accolytes. Ideally these two would report...

b) set his coaches quickly.

c) Finally he flipped 12 HS recruits from PSU, and is likely snagging portal transfers from PSU.

VATech and Franklin are doing the rights things, things we should've started at halftime of the JMU game when they were up 50-something to 21.
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Talk about low expectations.
 
farce© said:
Talk about low expectations.
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I think it is realistic to think that rebuilding the entire personnel dept, with guys from NFL instead of college, during mid Dec, is going to go poorly. Joe Anile, Lombo we're the early hires and they have zero college experience. There was a scar guy hired, but he disappeared in a week, and a UCF guy.
 
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