UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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TIL Petrino has a son in coaching, currently losing on ESPN to Butch Jones. If we can have multiple Lombos and multiple Belichicks on the team, why can't we have Bobby Petrino AND his son coach our offense? Father and son have coached together in the past....

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On paper Petrino, Kelly and Rees would be grand slams. Unfortunately I don't have high hopes for the BB era with what we saw last season. Ultimately I hope we keep the football investment a priority if and when BB is gone
 
stankeylegjones said:
Don't think I ever said millions upon millions, and pretty sure I said excess funds. Also, pretty sure I didn't say a lot (it's around 1% believe). But, perhaps y'all know better than me. 🤷‍♀️

And to be clear, I'm only talking about the excess revenue, not the benefit from the rise in applicants, donations, exposure, and so on due to athletics. Those are much harder to quantify/trace, also much impactful.
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Ah……you’re one who thinks spending on athletics promotes the university and that athletics spins off profits that it shares with academics.

Certainly it’s helped some schools. ‘Bama.

What about Ole Miss? Auburn? Mississippi State? Virginia Tech? Kentucky? It’s an elite academic school? Right? As are the others in this paragraph. That football money should be creating academic powerhouses!

Oklahoma? LSU? Oklahoma State? South Carolina?
 
Zoo_View said:
Ah……you’re one who thinks spending on athletics promotes the university and that athletics spins off profits that it shares with academics.

Certainly it’s helped some schools. ‘Bama.

What about Ole Miss? Auburn? Mississippi State? Virginia Tech? Kentucky? It’s an elite academic school? Right? As are the others in this paragraph. That football money should be creating academic powerhouses!

Oklahoma? LSU? Oklahoma State? South Carolina?
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No, you might want to go back and read the posts from before.

Also, are you seriously trying to argue that high-performing football teams don't bring in benefits to their university?
 
stankeylegjones said:
Don't think I ever said millions upon millions, and pretty sure I said excess funds. Also, pretty sure I didn't say a lot (it's around 1% believe). But, perhaps y'all know better than me. 🤷‍♀️

And to be clear, I'm only talking about the excess revenue, not the benefit from the rise in applicants, donations, exposure, and so on due to athletics. Those are much harder to quantify/trace, also much impactful.
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Please link to the tens of thousands or dozens of dollars athletic departments send to the academic side of the University or college.
 
stankeylegjones said:
No, you might want to go back and read the posts from before.

Also, are you seriously trying to argue that high-performing football teams don't bring in benefits to their university?
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‘Bama football has benefited the craptastic university that is in Tuscaloosa.

How’s LSU doing? They spend a lot on buying out coaches.

Ole Miss is highly ranked, right?

Mississippi State?

Oklahoma?

Oklahoma State?

Those football programs have boosted their academics immensely, right?
 
Zoo_View said:
Please link to the tens of thousands or dozens of dollars athletic departments send to the academic side of the University or college.
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Zoo_View said:
‘Bama football has benefited the craptastic university that is in Tuscaloosa.

How’s LSU doing? They spend a lot on buying out coaches.

Ole Miss is highly ranked, right?

Mississippi State?

Oklahoma?

Oklahoma State?

Those football programs have boosted their academics immensely, right?
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Once again, are you saying that a high-performing football program doesn't bring benefits to their university?

Regarding schools putting excess revenue back into the university, Texas just did that after last year's season - 2.8 million.
 
stankeylegjones said:
If you are going to argue at least argue in good faith.
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You’re arguing that athletics at P2/P4 schools produce revenue to benefit the academic side of the University (you know, the side of the University that is its reason for being).

$2-3 million at UT-Austin is a rounding error…….of which athletic departments have a lot of….

The Wake Forests, Virginia Techs, BC’s, ‘Cuses, TCU’s, Mississippi States, Miamis, Arkansas’s, Purdues, Indianas, Cal’s, Stanfords, SMU’s (its wealthy boosters don’t give a shit), etc. are athletic departments that are DRAINS on the University…..a cost and not a profit.

If a “profit,” what are the student athletic fees?
 
Zoo_View said:
You’re arguing that athletics at P2/P4 schools produce revenue to benefit the academic side of the University (you know, the side of the University that is its reason for being).

$2-3 million at UT-Austin is a rounding error…….of which athletic departments have a lot of….

The Wake Forests, Virginia Techs, BC’s, ‘Cuses, TCU’s, Mississippi States, Miamis, Arkansas’s, Purdues, Indianas, Cal’s, Stanfords, SMU’s (its wealthy boosters don’t give a shit), etc. are athletic departments that are DRAINS on the University…..a cost and not a profit.

If a “profit,” what are the student athletic fees?
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No, that is not what I'm arguing. Like I said, if you're going to argue at least do it in good faith. You can easily go read my posts, if you actually want to have a discussion.
 
stankeylegjones said:
No, that is not what I'm arguing. Like I said, if you're going to argue at least do it in good faith. You can easily go read my posts, if you actually want to have a discussion.
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I’ve read your posts.

You are not arguing in good faith.

Athletics DOES NOT produce MONEY to fund the academic side of the university/college. It doesn’t.

Does a national championship in football or Men’s basketball help a D1 school raise money? Yes it does.

Does it generate enough money to fund the university for a year? No.

Let’s go long-term.

How does the University of Alabama’s endowment compare to the University of Chicago’s?
 
Zoo_View said:
I’ve read your posts.

You are not arguing in good faith.

Athletics DOES NOT produce MONEY to fund the academic side of the university/college. It doesn’t.

Does a national championship in football or Men’s basketball help a D1 school raise money? Yes it does.

Does it generate enough money to fund the university for a year? No.

Let’s go long-term.

How does the University of Alabama’s endowment compare to the University of Chicago’s?
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A counter example to your first point, Texas has done just that this year.

My stance from the beginning is that high-performing football programs benefit the university as a whole. A position you seem to be in agreement of, so why the fuck are you arguing? At this point you are just arguing with yourself, and arguing just to argue.
 
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stankeylegjones said:
A counter example to your first point, Texas has done just that this year.

My stance from the beginning is that high-performing football programs benefit the university as a whole. A position you seem to be in agreement of, so why the fuck are you arguing? At this point you are just arguing with yourself, and arguing just to argue.
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How many universities have “high-performing football programs” in a single season?

How many universities have “high-performing football programs” over five years?

How many universities have “high-performing football programs” year-after-year-after-year-after-year?

How many of those “high-performing” football programs generate profits? How many share profits with the academic side of the University?
 
stankeylegjones said:
A counter example to your first point, Texas has done just that this year.

My stance from the beginning is that high-performing football programs benefit the university as a whole. A position you seem to be in agreement of, so why the fuck are you arguing? At this point you are just arguing with yourself, and arguing just to argue.
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'in agreement with'

not me however

Should UNC aim to be more like Oklahoma or Harvard?
 
CFordUNC said:
If you're wanting to know how things are going over on IC, there is a group of snowflakes melting because Don Callahan said that he likes to use the ignore feature. Never, ever, ever ceases to amaze me how so many grown men let the friggin' internet get them so emotional.
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There are just as many snowflakes here.
 
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