UNC Football Catch-all | Bill Belichick Era underway

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Love Mack Brown or hate him, he did not blindside Dick Baddour when he went to Texas. As a matter of fact, he basically gave us the opportunity to have him never even take the interview. It was Dickie who insisted that Mack should talk to them. Long time ago, but still an anecdote that drives me mad with what could have (and maybe should have) been. It took me a LONG time to not cuss when I said Dickie B's name for that mess.
 
Ramrouser said:
^All valid and reasonable points.

I'm still OK with the hire since UNC needs a magician (Buck Sanders quote) next season to turn this offense around. No one outside of UNC (other than our hated rivals who'll hate us for anything we do) are going to think any less of us as a University for hiring Bobby Petrino as the offensive coordinator for our football team. BB needs to show significant improvement next season or he won't get his year 3.
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We need talented players not smoke and mirror old magicians SMH
 
Agree but we needed to fill the OC position first, then work on acquiring talented players. Petrino describes his offensive strategy as “feeding the studs.” UNC needs to find those studs.
 
From Greg's latest article, regarding my question yesterday about Gio resigning/restructuring his contract. From this it seems he resigned for less money: "The Lopez renegotiation and Baker exit frees up money that can contribute to filling out the QB room, sources confirm."

I know that a BB and Lombardi talk the contracts being performance-based, but I thought that would only matter for the 1-year contracts - if a player signs a 1-year contract this year, then when they go to sign a 1-year contract next year the salary would be based off of this year's performance. Perhaps Gio's, and everyones, 2-year contract has a resigning clause? That seems weird and gives UNC/Lombardi a ton of power over the athletes.
 
Calheel said:
Did Jake Dickert have talented studs at Wake Forest or was he just a better coach for what he did have?
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You dont need studs to beat a bunch of ACC nobodys. Did WF have more talent than UNC? Absolutely, we were one of the worst talented teams in the country. No coach is good without talent...ask the GOAT.
 
keywestheel said:
You dont need studs to beat a bunch of ACC nobodys. Did WF have more talent than UNC? Absolutely, we were one of the worst talented teams in the country. No coach is good without talent...ask the GOAT.
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I’m gonna respectfully disagree that wake had more talent.
 
stankeylegjones said:
From Greg's latest article, regarding my question yesterday about Gio resigning/restructuring his contract. From this it seems he resigned for less money: "The Lopez renegotiation and Baker exit frees up money that can contribute to filling out the QB room, sources confirm."

I know that a BB and Lombardi talk the contracts being performance-based, but I thought that would only matter for the 1-year contracts - if a player signs a 1-year contract this year, then when they go to sign a 1-year contract next year the salary would be based off of this year's performance. Perhaps Gio's, and everyones, 2-year contract has a resigning clause? That seems weird and gives UNC/Lombardi a ton of power over the athletes.
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Or there is other leverage in the contract that a coach can use to renegotiate. Or perhaps a buyout amount. We saw that UNC was able to pay a discount to get Browne to go back to Purdue, so I suspect there is room for negotiation some how some way.
 
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Calheel said:
I’m gonna respectfully disagree that wake had more talent.
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Why? Says we have money to go after high profile QB and talks have begun. Also says staff feels Burgess could contribute soon. Also says gio renegotiated and implication is he took paycut. Also said staff told Baker he was in their plans. I found it positive.
 
i found it more of, we don’t have money for a top tier guy and we’re going to add someone (more on a budget) to compete with Gio and maybe Burgess (who missed almost his entire senior year to injury and isn’t back from his acl tear)
 
I think if we are "in it" for a fairly top QB
Then we will find the $ for that player-not that it is laying around right now But some big donor(s) will be approached about turning the program around blah blah
 
Calheel said:
Did Jake Dickert have talented studs at Wake Forest or was he just a better coach for what he did have?
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Look at the all-acc lists. They have 11 on the page, we have 5 including a kicker.

They have 3 OL, we have zero.
They have 2 DL (both honorable), we have just Melkart (2nd)

Trenches: 5 to 1.

Nick Andersen (1st) was the best safety in the ACC. CB Karon Prunty was 3rd team. Demond Claiborne (2nd) is better offensively than any player we have.
Chris Barnes (3rd st return man, honorable mention AP) was their ninth. An LB and safety were their 10th and 11th.

Our 4 on honorable were Shipp, 2 LBs and kicker.

Maybe Dixon could've made this list if healthy. Maybe if we rode a single RB all yr then one could make it. But who else on our roster do you consider talented that would've been revealed under different coaches or should have made this list?
 
mpaer said:
I think if we are "in it" for a fairly top QB
Then we will find the $ for that player-not that it is laying around right now But some big donor(s) will be approached about turning the program around blah blah
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If people in the RC are to be believed, most of the folks that would have been the go-to for that kind of ask are frigid in their reception currently. They are terrified what fundraising for the basketball arena will look like.
 
gregh1 said:
Look at the all-acc lists. They have 11 on the page, we have 5 including a kicker.

They have 3 OL, we have zero.
They have 2 DL (both honorable), we have just Melkart (2nd)

Trenches: 5 to 1.

Nick Andersen (1st) was the best safety in the ACC. CB Karon Prunty was 3rd team. Demond Claiborne (2nd) is better offensively than any player we have.
Chris Barnes (3rd st return man, honorable mention AP) was their ninth. An LB and safety were their 10th and 11th.

Our 4 on honorable were Shipp, 2 LBs and kicker.

Maybe Dixon could've made this list if healthy. Maybe if we rode a single RB all yr then one could make it. But who else on our roster do you consider talented that would've been revealed under different coaches or should have made this list?
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The All-ACC lists will generally have players from the teams with the best results. So, it is a chicken and egg situation.

Did Wake get more players on the all-ACC teams because Wake had more talent or because Wake coaches did a better job with the low-level talent they inherited?

And if we accept that Wake really is more talented than UNC (which I think is dubious), why is Wake more talented than UNC when it has a much smaller player personnel department, much less money to spend on talent, much less of a name (both school and head coach) to recruit talent, and started from a much lower talent level than UNC? Isn't that even a bigger red flag going forward?

This whole discussion has a distinct Frank Frangie circa 2012 vibe.
 
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