UNC Men’s Basketball 2025-2026

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And the past couple years we had more OOC games vs. top-25 teams than usual. Going back further between Roy’s first year (2004) and 2015, this is what it looked like (we played no games vs. top-25 opponents in 2008!):
2004 - 3
2005 - 1
2006 - 2
2007 - 2
2008 - 0
2009 - 2
2010 - 4
2011 - 3
2012 - 2
2013 - 2
2014 - 3
2015 - 4
In Roy's years, we had more than enough games against top 25 opponents in our ACC schedule. We typically had 3 or 4 teams in or around the top 10, with half the conference in or around the top 25 (I'm going off the top of my head, so consider all this approximate). Our pre-conference schedule really only mattered for preparing us for conference play. Now with the ACC so soft, we need quality wins in pre-conference play to bolster our tournament resume.
 
In Roy's years, we had more than enough games against top 25 opponents in our ACC schedule. We typically had 3 or 4 teams in or around the top 10, with half the conference in or around the top 25 (I'm going off the top of my head, so consider all this approximate). Our pre-conference schedule really only mattered for preparing us for conference play. Now with the ACC so soft, we need quality wins in pre-conference play to bolster our tournament resume.
Agreed. Still kinda surprised med though. I thought we always played pretty tough non-conference schedules.
 
Agreed. Still kinda surprised med though. I thought we always played pretty tough non-conference schedules.
I would say those were still decently tough non-con schedules. Just did a quick scan of KU’s schedules during that era for comparison and it looks pretty comparable.

I think this recent push to stack the non-con is a product of conferences like the ACC losing prestige and a shift in how the selection committee judges resumes. If you’re a team that expects to get a top seed, realistically the best strategy is to give yourself more chances against other top teams and hope that you win a decent chunk of them. Those wins go a long way, and the losses aren’t as penalizing.
 
With regard to our OOC schedule this upcoming season, it appears we are playing three teams ranked in the preseason top-25. Obviously, it’s possible some of those teams drop out of the top-25 and possible that other teams we play end up in the top-25. But it made me wonder how many top-25 teams we’ve played in our OOC schedule over the past 10 years. Here it is (this is based on ranking at the time the game was played):
2025 - 5
2024 - 5
2023 - 3
2022 - 4
2021 - 2
2020 - 3
2019 - 4
2018 - 2
2017 - 3
2016 - 2
Until recently it didn’t matter as much because more than 2-3 ACC games would be Q1 level
 
In Roy's years, we had more than enough games against top 25 opponents in our ACC schedule. We typically had 3 or 4 teams in or around the top 10, with half the conference in or around the top 25 (I'm going off the top of my head, so consider all this approximate). Our pre-conference schedule really only mattered for preparing us for conference play. Now with the ACC so soft, we need quality wins in pre-conference play to bolster our tournament resume.
Yes... but... the success of the ACC is not something that is under Hubert's control. Roy coached his teams in a way that allowed them to improve across the season. How they came in was never how they finished. Part of that depended on building early season confidence - facing a few top 25 teams, sure, but also his fair share of weaker competition, in order to build depth, take some risks with lineups, and just let the team have some fun blowing out lesser teams (etc.)

Hubert has not had that luxury, in part because the schedule has always been "top" (beginning of the season) heavy. His teams have had to fight their way out of holes - in games, sure, but also versus the competition. A brutal early schedule delays players getting into a rhythm - which is one of my least favorite things about college football - where 1-2 early season losses can derail hopes of achieving greatness.

In basketball, there is always hope, but if people fly too close to the sun, too quickly, like Icarus, they are likely to fall.

I didn't like how the season ended last year, but the product at the end of the year was undeniably better than the product at the beginning. That has been true in at least three of Hubert's seasons. "Yes, but teams should always improve" you might argue. True, but every team should improve. If you are performing better at the end vs. the competition you face, then you did early, that shows me that growth is occurring.
 
So strange. That would seem to be a total shift in the reporting, no?
 
According to Ross Martin (posted on TH247) it seems that the hold-up/delay is not with(in) UNC, but on Luka's camp.
That's a poor summary.

The hold up is within UNC on the academic side, but the inferred claim is that the information needed hasn't been received from Luka's camp.
 
That's a poor summary.

The hold up is within UNC on the academic side, but the inferred claim is that the information needed hasn't been received from Luka's camp.
Summary? I didn't even attempt to summarize what he said. Only the relevant part to why there's a delay.
 
Summary? I didn't even attempt to summarize what he said. Only the relevant part to why there's a delay.
You suggested the hold up isn't within UNC, while it totally is. The part that is supposedly on Luka's camp is that UNC doesn't have the info needed to move forward.
 
Isn't it clear that UNC hasn't ruled him eligible yet? I didn't think that needed to be stated - we've read about it and talked about it for several days now. The reason why they haven't ruled on it is because they don't have all of the information. The reason why they don't have the information has nothing to do with UNC. So, UNC is/was waiting for the information - hence they are/were held up by by others, not with(in) UNC. Which is exactly what I said.
 
Isn't it clear that UNC hasn't ruled him eligible yet? I didn't think that needed to be stated - we've read about it and talked about it for several days now. The reason why they haven't ruled on it is because they don't have all of the information. The reason why they don't have the information has nothing to do with UNC. So, UNC is/was waiting for the information - hence they are/were held up by by others, not with(in) UNC. Which is exactly what I said.
I wasn't trying to be derogatory with my comment(s) to you.

I think there is a general misunderstanding by a lot of folks what is going on with Luka. There's a lot of "he's already been declared eligible" and "if the NCAA has declared him eligible, then we should just play him" comments being made (not necessarily on here) that show that folks really don't get how all of this works.

I was just trying to clarify that this isn't something where Luka's camp is holding him out, but that UNC is holding him out based on lack of information supposedly not supplied by Luka's camp.
 
I wasn't trying to be derogatory with my comment(s) to you.

I think there is a general misunderstanding by a lot of folks what is going on with Luka. There's a lot of "he's already been declared eligible" and "if the NCAA has declared him eligible, then we should just play him" comments being made (not necessarily on here) that show that folks really don't get how all of this works.

I was just trying to clarify that this isn't something where Luka's camp is holding him out, but that UNC is holding him out based on lack of information supposedly not supplied by Luka's camp.
Ah, my bad. I didn't read your comments as that. Thank you for clarifying.

Yes, I do know what you're talking about with the misunderstanding, especially on TH247 and IC.
 
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