UNC’s Next Basketball Coach

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Rock said:
That’s fair. And I agree that it’s an unfortunate position for the team to be in where the coach is perennially on the bubble but… c’est la vie. I know in sports everyone wants their team to fire the coach and hire Phil Jackson but reality is a little more complicated.
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With the folks we have in charge of hiring coaches for the revenue sports, my concern is that they fire the coach and hire Phil Jackson.
 
heel79 said:
Here is what you said exactly: "I think they would have to split with Duke at least and win the rest of their games and then get into the semi final of the ACC tournament to be a 4 or higher."

Rhere are 9 games in regular season. If we split with dook and win the rest of the games, and then make semis, which requires two wins, that is a finish of 10-2. That is what you said we need to do to get 4 or higher. Perhaps you wrote it poorly. I do not know.

But if that is what you meant, and you are arguing it is not, then it is an idiot take.

Maybe you can try again.

Yes to all of this, and I really believe this is how the vast majority of UNC grads (not fans) feel about the situation. There is so much to suggest Hubert is growing into this job (last seven minutes last night, notwithstanding). Recruiting, getting Wilson, getting Adams, poised to get Mingo, development of players, in-game coaching switching some D's, better rotations, baskets after TOs, low turnovers, etc.
This Elite Eight or Final Four or bust is just dumb IMO.
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Yes, that is what they would have to do to get a 4 seed or better. They aren't getting a 4 seed if they don't beat Duke and lose a couple of more games in the regular season. If they lose both games to Duke and lose a couple of more without winning the ACC tournament they aren't getting a 4 seed. Maybe you can read again and not be a fool. Aren't you supposed to be a newspaper editor? Everyone else seems to get what I said
 
CarolinaFever said:
If they lose to a couple of teams besides Duke and don't make a run in the ACC tournament they will not be a top 4 seed based on their body of work this season.
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That's not what you posted though.
CarolinaFever said:
Yes, that is what they would have to do to get a 4 seed or better. They aren't getting a 4 seed if they don't beat Duke and lose a couple of more games in the regular season. If they lose both games to Duke and lose a couple of more without winning the ACC tournament they aren't getting a 4 seed. Maybe you can read again and not be a fool. Aren't you supposed to be a newspaper editor? Everyone else seems to get what I said
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What if they split with dook, lose at Clemson and win the rest while going 1-1 in the ACCT?
 
SnoopRob said:
I’m glad you came out of the coma you were in for the 2023-2024 season. 😂
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You stay aware that team lost 8 games as well during that season. Yes, they won the ACC. They likely were a better team, although that has yet to be proven That still wasn't a well balanced team. We had a lot of pieces and between Ingram, Bacot and RJ won a lot of games on basically hero ball but they didn't really ever jell. I still feel like this is a better rounded team.

I'll admit some bias because ,as much as I liked RJ and Bacot and appreciated what they meant, I thought that it hurt the development of our program in the long run. I thought it was an impediment eventually in recruiting and style of play.
 
heel79 said:
Rhere are 9 games in regular season. If we split with dook and win the rest of the games, and then make semis, which requires two wins, that is a finish of 10-2. That is what you said we need to do to get 4 or higher. Perhaps you wrote it poorly. I do not know.
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If we go 8-1 to finish the regular season, we'll almost certainly be a top 4 seed in the ACCT, which would mean that we'd only have to win 1 ACCT game to make the semis and two ACCT wins would put us in the finals.
 
finesse said:
You stay aware that team lost 8 games as well during that season. Yes, they won the ACC. They likely were a better team, although that has yet to be proven That still wasn't a well balanced team. We had a lot of pieces and between Ingram, Bacot and RJ won a lot of games on basically hero ball but they didn't really ever jell. I still feel like this is a better rounded team.

I'll admit some bias because ,as much as I liked RJ and Bacot and appreciated what they meant, I thought that it hurt the development of our program in the long run. I thought it was an impediment eventually in recruiting and style of play.
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That team was a 1 seed, finished the season in the top 10, and had skill at every position.

It was certainly a better balanced team than this one.
 
Bigs23 said:
That's not what you posted though.

What if they split with dook, lose at Clemson and win the rest while going 1-1 in the ACCT?
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Maybe. I just know if they don't beat Duke once and also lose two more there is no way they are a 4 or better unless they can win the ACC tournament.
 
finesse said:
You stay aware that team lost 8 games as well during that season. Yes, they won the ACC. They likely were a better team, although that has yet to be proven That still wasn't a well balanced team. We had a lot of pieces and between Ingram, Bacot and RJ won a lot of games on basically hero ball but they didn't really ever jell. I still feel like this is a better rounded team.

I'll admit some bias because ,as much as I liked RJ and Bacot and appreciated what they meant, I thought that it hurt the development of our program in the long run. I thought it was an impediment eventually in recruiting and style of play.
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The one thing that team was missing was a rim protector. That would have made that team virtually complete and taken them to the next level. Add one more guard who could be a legit three-point threat and that would’ve been about perfect.
 
finesse said:
Oddly, that team's record on February 3 that year was 18-4.
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That team was about 15-20 spots better in efficiency rankings at that time too, with a top 10 defense (as opposed to the current one outside the top 50 defensively). They also had beaten Duke at that time, Tennessee, at Pitt, At Clemson, neutral wins over Arkansas and Oklahoma,without a loss as bad as the west coast shit swing we just had, a better resume in general. Beat Duke Saturday and a lot of people will have crow to eat (me included)
 
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CarolinaFever said:
Maybe. I just know if they don't beat Duke once and also lose two more there is no way they are a 4 or better unless they can win the ACC tournament.
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If they lose more than 3 games the rest of the way they won't be a top 4 seed.

If they go 9-3 with a win over dook it's possible.

If they go 10-2 I think they get it.

12-0 means a 2 seed.

11-1 a 3 seed.

I think seeds 2-9 are still in play.
 
finesse said:
Oddly, that team's record on February 3 that year was 18-4.
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The 2016 team had 4 losses going into the dook** game
The 2017 team had 4 losses going into the dook** game
The 2018 team had 6 losses going into the dook** game
The 2019 team had 5 losses going into the dook** game
The 2021 team had 6 losses going into the dook** game

So far this year's team is having a good year...treasure every victory
 
uncjhodges said:
That team was about 15-20 spots better in efficiency rankings at that time too, with a top 10 defense (as opposed to the current one outside the top 50 defensively). They also had beaten Duke at that time, Tennessee, at Pitt, At Clemson, neutral wins over Arkansas and Oklahoma,without a loss as bad as the west coast shit swing we just had, a better resume in general. Beat Duke Saturday and a lot of people will have crow to eat (me included)
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Not sure that the loss to a bad Georgia Tech team doesn't qualify as being as bad although it was singular.
 
finesse said:
I got to be honest with y'all. We came into this season with one player, Trimble, who we pretty much knew what to expect. I was prepared for a truly dismal season. We've ended up with the best balanced team that we've had since Hubert has been here. It's also a team that has steadily improved with players like Dixon, Powell and Stephenson continuing to step up their game. Y'all are just seeing something I'm not if you haven't seen great improvement in where we started , where we are and where we're likely to end up. I guess I didn't grow up with the same sense of privilege. I look at success at the highest level as a gift and not a birthright. If we fire Hubert because he falls short of the Final Four or even the Elite Eight, we'll have turned ourselves into just another win at al costs program. Fool that I am, that's not what I've appreciated the most about UNC basketball.

Rant over for now.
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Best balanced team since HD has been here? The team two years ago was far more balanced than this one.
 
uncjhodges said:
That team was about 15-20 spots better in efficiency rankings at that time too, with a top 10 defense (as opposed to the current one outside the top 50 defensively). They also had beaten Duke at that time, Tennessee, at Pitt, At Clemson, neutral wins over Arkansas and Oklahoma,without a loss as bad as the west coast shit swing we just had, a better resume in general. Beat Duke Saturday and a lot of people will have crow to eat (me included)
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Also zero NBA players on that roster. They must have been well coached.
 
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