University of Idaho murders

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Carolina Fever

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I know the guy that did it pleaded guilty a couple of weeks ago to avoid the death penalty. There is a documentary on Prime now about the murders that is supposed to be very good. I am still confused about this, though.

According to CNN, a figure in a mask and dark clothing entered the house around 4 a.m. and stabbed the four students, moving from one room to the next. One roommate, Dylan Mortensen, testified that she saw the figure when investigating noises outside her bedroom door. Though she discussed what she saw with another roommate, Bethany Funke, nobody called 911 until roughly noon on Nov. 13, per court documents.
 
That is one of the bigger mysteries of the case...why did the surviving roommates not contact anyone until hours and hours after the attack occurred.

If law enforcement/attorneys know the answer to that question, I don't think it's even come close to being made public.

I'm hopeful that after sentencing, some answers to this question and others will be provided.
 
I don't know if it would have made a difference, but it's still weird to me they didn't call 911 after seeing a strange man in a mask walking through the house, and didn't check on the other roommates after they heard crying and couldn't get them to answer the texts. Maybe they blacked out drunk. Not sure, but curious about it. Also, when they couldn't get them to answer the texts again in the morning, they called friends to come over, and one of the friends called 911. But instead of saying they might be dead and there is blood everywhere they said they just wouldn't wake up.
 
One of the memorable quote from 1970's cinema was, "Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown." I wonder if similar advice is appicable here, except with "Idaho" replacing "Chinatown." Maybe Idaho is just one of those places where weird is normal because it has just been a magnet for weird people for so long? Maybe the fast and loose governmental nuclear testing has so compromised the environment that it also compromised the people?
 
05C40 said:
One of the memorable quote from 1970's cinema was, "Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown." I wonder if similar advice is appicable here, except with "Idaho" replacing "Chinatown." Maybe Idaho is just one of those places where weird is normal because it has just been a magnet for weird people for so long? Maybe the fast and loose governmental nuclear testing has so compromised the environment that it also compromised the people?
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kohberger was at WSU in pullman, washington just across the border from idaho.

but yeah, that whole area is a bit odd. along with idaho, eastern washington and oregon aren't exactly known for being normal and chill. full of militia and prepper and sovereign citizen and wannabe off-the-grid types. all of the whackos.
 
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Carolina Fever said:
I don't know if it would have made a difference, but it's still weird to me they didn't call 911 after seeing a strange man in a mask walking through the house, and didn't check on the other roommates after they heard crying and couldn't get them to answer the texts. Maybe they blacked out drunk. Not sure, but curious about it. Also, when they couldn't get them to answer the texts again in the morning, they called friends to come over, and one of the friends called 911. But instead of saying they might be dead and there is blood everywhere they said they just wouldn't wake up.
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this recording of the 911 call has helpful captions:



the roommates were in shock, everyone on the call sounds like they're hyperventilating aside from the female neighbor who talks fairly dispassionately, she took the phone at one point from the roommate in the yard. at about the 2:30 mark the 911 dispatcher asks them to check on the victims and there's a male friend on the phone and he and roommate dylan are both clearly losing it when they go back inside to survey the scene. crying and ragged breathing and the male friend declaring "get out, get out, we have to get out."

the lack of precision or ability to express things more clearly seems a bit odd in a vacuum or looking in from the outside but many maybe even most people completely lose their composure in really traumatic, high stress situations like that and we know these kids were all drinking to some degree the night before, hangovers were probably playing a role too. a high level of stress shines through pretty clearly with everyone on the phone other than the neighbor, imo.

i think alcohol and living in a college party house where people are hanging around at all hours are the likely explanations for no one taking action during the night, too.
 
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4thgenheel said:
this recording of the 911 call has helpful captions:



the roommates were in shock, everyone on the call sounds like they're hyperventilating aside from the female neighbor who talks fairly dispassionately, she took the phone at one point from the roommate in the yard. at about the 2:30 mark the 911 dispatcher asks them to check on the victims and there's a male friend on the phone and he and roommate dylan are both clearly losing it when they go back inside to survey the scene. crying and ragged breathing and the male friend declaring "get out, get out, we have to get out."

the lack of precision or ability to express things more clearly seems a bit odd in a vacuum or looking in from the outside but many maybe even most people completely lose their composure in really traumatic, high stress situations like that and we know these kids were all drinking to some degree the night before, hangovers were probably playing a role too. a high level of stress shines through pretty clearly with everyone on the phone other than the neighbor, imo.

i think alcohol and living in a college party house where people are hanging around at all hours are the likely explanations for no one taking action during the night, too.
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Maybe so. I guess it's possible the one that saw him could have been drunk, high or both and thought she was seeing things.
 
Carolina Fever said:
Maybe so. I guess it's possible the one that saw him could have been drunk, high or both and thought she was seeing things.
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yeah, back when it all happened in late 2022 some of my friends and i who were fascinated and horrified by the situation had a lot of conversations about the roommates and at one point during a press conference media asked moscow police investigators something along the lines of "can you comment on what many people think is odd inaction / reaction by the surviving roommates" and the cop completely brushed it off, so i think that they quickly determined that the roommates were sleepy/drunk/confused/traumatized but hadn't done anything wrong.

this has some interesting details: Idaho Killer Is Sent to Prison for Life, His Motives Still Unknown

"Ms. Mortensen told officers that when she looked outside her room, she saw a man clad in black leaving the house. The other surviving roommate, Bethany Funke, told the police she did not know what to make of what Ms. Mortensen had told her about what she saw, thinking it was possible that a fraternity member was playing a joke on them."

Much attention has focused on why neither called 911 until more than seven hours after the killings — particularly since one, Dylan Mortensen, saw a masked man walking through the house around 4 a.m., roughly the time of the killings. Ms. Mortenson said she had been haunted ever since the murders, afraid to close her eyes at night.

The other roommate, Bethany Funke, wrote a statement read in court. “If I had known, I, of course, would have called 911 right away,” she said, adding, “I understand it wouldn’t have changed anything, not even if the paramedics had been right outside the door.”

“We have never to this day found a single connection between him and any of the four victims or the two surviving victims,” said Lt. Darren Gilbertson of the Idaho State Police.
 
4thgenheel said:
yeah, back when it all happened in late 2022 some of my friends and i who were fascinated and horrified by the situation had a lot of conversations about the roommates and at one point during a press conference media asked moscow police investigators something along the lines of "can you comment on what many people think is odd inaction / reaction by the surviving roommates" and the cop completely brushed it off, so i think that they quickly determined that the roommates were sleepy/drunk/confused/traumatized but hadn't done anything wrong.

this has some interesting details: Idaho Killer Is Sent to Prison for Life, His Motives Still Unknown

"Ms. Mortensen told officers that when she looked outside her room, she saw a man clad in black leaving the house. The other surviving roommate, Bethany Funke, told the police she did not know what to make of what Ms. Mortensen had told her about what she saw, thinking it was possible that a fraternity member was playing a joke on them."

Much attention has focused on why neither called 911 until more than seven hours after the killings — particularly since one, Dylan Mortensen, saw a masked man walking through the house around 4 a.m., roughly the time of the killings. Ms. Mortenson said she had been haunted ever since the murders, afraid to close her eyes at night.

The other roommate, Bethany Funke, wrote a statement read in court. “If I had known, I, of course, would have called 911 right away,” she said, adding, “I understand it wouldn’t have changed anything, not even if the paramedics had been right outside the door.”

“We have never to this day found a single connection between him and any of the four victims or the two surviving victims,” said Lt. Darren Gilbertson of the Idaho State Police.
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I never thought they were involved at all. Just thought it was odd they didn’t call 911 after she saw a man in a ski mask walking out the house and couldn't get the others to answer their texts. Like I said, maybe they were really drunk and/or high.
 
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