US Foreign Policy Trump47 | Threatens all hell to break loose in Gaza; won't rule out military force in Panama, Greenland, threatens economic force

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The media has become incapacitated by two things: (1) its takeover by billionaires, many of whom are right-leaning to begin, and all of whom have a strong interest in currying favor with the Trump regime, and (2) its inability to determine how to respond to Trump's incessant bluster. On the second one, I'm not at all apologizing for them. It's their job to figure this out. But I do have some sympathy. When he says shit like this about Canada and Greenland, do you take him seriously? Do you take it as a joke? Do you attribute it to trolling? Is it best to just ignore it?

Trump has dumbed down the level of our political discourse to such a level that intelligent people, which includes most reporters, are simply unable to respond effectively. It's like trying to reason with a toddler having a tantrum because his binky is in the wash. Again, I'm not giving the press a pass. They have to figure this out. But godalmighty I just can't get past the absolute idiocy of the people who voted for this scumbag. What were you idiots thinking?
Most likely thinking along the lines of

“So Ukraine is a country in Europe. It exists next to another country called Russia. Russia is a bigger country. Russia is a powerful country. Russia decided to invade a smaller country called Ukraine. So, basically, that’s wrong.”

AND

""What can be, unburdened by what has been"
 
And you support fascism, racism, bigotry, Christian nationalism, a crook, a fraud, a convicted felon, a guy who bragged about sexually assaulting women, a guy who tried to get Russia to interfere in an election for him, who tried to steal an election, and then incited an attempted insurrection when that didn't work.
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If you can't see the difference between what Trump was saying in 2016 and what he's saying today, that's on you. I know conservatives have sworn off the news sources that report actual facts, but it might be worth keeping an eye on them every now and then.
This is where you and I have such a disconnect. How in the world you can utter this: "I know conservatives have sworn off the news sources that report actual facts, but it might be worth keeping an eye on them every now and then." with a straight face or not embarrassed to say it is beyond me given how utterly corrupt / misleading / and full of lies the media you consume has been over the last several years. Its blatant hypocrisy. What's worse, you don't even care that you have been misled or lied to. Its funny to see libs brag about their media and hold it up as some beacon of light while story after story comes out about their obvious intent to mislead and suppress information. Here's the truth. Just like everything else, you have lost any semblance of higher ground in your political and media universe. Now you guys actually sound dumb when saying it.
 
We had an opportunity to ignore Trump. It was by electing Kamala as the next president. Now that the plurality of Americans have decided to make him the most powerful person in the world, we can't ignore him. That's what the callatoroys cant understand. You can apologize for Trump all you want. But the man is the commander in chief of the most powerful army in human history, and he's the putative leader of the free world. If you excuse him by saying he won't do what he's promised to do, or by chalking him up as an "exaggerator," that's not our issue. You idiots put him in this position. Don't blame us when we use his words against you.
I agree 100% but that is a bit different than what I was referring to. I am wondering if we are playing into Putin’s hands when we react to Putin making statements that make it appear that Trump and Putin are in collusion.

I would never think twice about criticizing the things that Trump himself says or does.

I say that because sometimes I think Putin or his media does intentionally try to get us to fight. But, again, Trump does nothing to stop it.
 
This is where you and I have such a disconnect. How in the world you can utter this: "I know conservatives have sworn off the news sources that report actual facts, but it might be worth keeping an eye on them every now and then." with a straight face or not embarrassed to say it is beyond me given how utterly corrupt / misleading / and full of lies the media you consume has been over the last several years. Its blatant hypocrisy. What's worse, you don't even care that you have been misled or lied to. Its funny to see libs brag about their media and hold it up as some beacon of light while story after story comes out about their obvious intent to mislead and suppress information. Here's the truth. Just like everything else, you have lost any semblance of higher ground in your political and media universe. Now you guys actually sound dumb when saying it.
Sigh. You're going to feel like such an idiot 30 years from now when you read the history of this era. You'll be wondering how you could have possibly been such a dumbass. Or, like current Lost Causers, you'll still be finding ways to make excuses for it.
 
Sigh. You're going to feel like such an idiot 30 years from now when you read the history of this era. You'll be wondering how you could have possibly been such a dumbass. Or, like current Lost Causers, you'll still be finding ways to make excuses for it.
I don't think Calla makes it to 90, or has that kind of capacity for reflection and growth.

I'm going to guess B.
 

This seems like a really bad idea.
It's terrible for our national security and the integrity of the civil service. But BRING. IT. ON. This is what callatoroy has been promising us will never happen, Trump's promises be damned. Let's see what it looks like when our government loses the people who keep it functioning. MAGA broke it. Let's see if they can buy it.
 
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Sigh. You're going to feel like such an idiot 30 years from now when you read the history of this era. You'll be wondering how you could have possibly been such a dumbass. Or, like current Lost Causers, you'll still be finding ways to make excuses for it.
Who's writing that history? If I'm wrong I have absolutely no trouble admitting it.
 
This is where you and I have such a disconnect. How in the world you can utter this: "I know conservatives have sworn off the news sources that report actual facts, but it might be worth keeping an eye on them every now and then." with a straight face or not embarrassed to say it is beyond me given how utterly corrupt / misleading / and full of lies the media you consume has been over the last several years. Its blatant hypocrisy. What's worse, you don't even care that you have been misled or lied to. Its funny to see libs brag about their media and hold it up as some beacon of light while story after story comes out about their obvious intent to mislead and suppress information. Here's the truth. Just like everything else, you have lost any semblance of higher ground in your political and media universe. Now you guys actually sound dumb when saying it.
Fox news folk I know watch Fox news
Thats it
And lots of blatant lies they get day and Night.
You may not like Racahel Maddow-but she doesn't lie
 
It's terrible for our national security and the integrity of the civil service. But BRING. IT. ON. This is what callatoroy has been promising us will never happen, Trump's promises be damned. Let's see what it looks like when our government loses the people who keep it functioning. MAGA broke it. Let's see if they can but it.

None of it happens without trump. Winning

 
Sigh. You're going to feel like such an idiot 30 years from now when you read the history of this era. You'll be wondering how you could have possibly been such a dumbass. Or, like current Lost Causers, you'll still be finding ways to make excuses for it.
Your last sentence is the likeliest outcome.

Speaking of the Lost Cause, I wonder how many of our MAGAts took Lost Cause catechism classes growing up?
 
It's terrible for our national security and the integrity of the civil service. But BRING. IT. ON. This is what callatoroy has been promising us will never happen, Trump's promises be damned. Let's see what it looks like when our government loses the people who keep it functioning. MAGA broke it. Let's see if they can but it.
I happen to agree with this. "White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan is making a robust case for the incoming Trump administration to hold over career government employees assigned to the NSC at least through the early going of the new administration."

However, given the number of people who worked in trump 1.0 that tried to undermine him and leak to the press, I understand where they are coming from.
 
Fox news folk I know watch Fox news
Thats it
And lots of blatant lies they get day and Night.
You may not like Racahel Maddow-but she doesn't lie
I'm sure you are correct. However, that lack of intelligence is on them. There are people on this board who only consume left leaning media and immediately dismiss anything from a right leaning source. You gave me one individual who doesn't lie. I'm going to take your word for it. She works for a network that does. They all do. You will also notice that I'm not on this board boasting about the media the right consumes and acting as if they never lie. Lawtig's comment on the media is cringe worthy coming from an educated person. If someone automatically dismisses something just because of the source then its a sign of a lack of intelligence and they aren't a serious person.
 
I'm sure you are correct. However, that lack of intelligence is on them. There are people on this board who only consume left leaning media and immediately dismiss anything from a right leaning source. You gave me one individual who doesn't lie. I'm going to take your word for it. She works for a network that does. They all do. You will also notice that I'm not on this board boasting about the media the right consumes and acting as if they never lie. Lawtig's comment on the media is cringe worthy coming from an educated person. If someone automatically dismisses something just because of the source then it’s a sign of a lack of intelligence and they aren't a serious person.
You talking about my post about the media on page 9? Yeah, I stand by that 100%. I’m not dismissing them. I’m commenting on their difficulty in dealing with Trump’s never ending stream of bullshit, which you help to amplify here.
 
You talking about my post about the media on page 9? Yeah, I stand by that 100%. I’m not dismissing them. I’m commenting on their difficulty in dealing with Trump’s never ending stream of bullshit, which you help to amplify here.
No, your comment on page 11.

Anything short of condemnation is amplification to you. What bullshit did I amplify? I credited him for getting the EU to man up on the cost of their defense and said he was wrong for getting rid of all non trump, non political personnel at the NSC immediately.
 
I don't think Calla makes it to 90, or has that kind of capacity for reflection and growth.

I'm going to guess B.
Make it to 90? Likely not. Lol at your comment on reflection and growth. Pretty rich coming from a guy who spends his days as a member of the zzl TDS cult where 90% of the comments are just repeating how bad trump is. What type of reflection and growth are you getting? Someone creates a new dig at trump and you say "damn, I wish I had thought to say that."
 
Make it to 90? Likely not. Lol at your comment on reflection and growth. Pretty rich coming from a guy who spends his days as a member of the zzl TDS cult where 90% of the comments are just repeating how bad trump is. What type of reflection and growth are you getting? Someone creates a new dig at trump and you say "damn, I wish I had thought to say that."
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From CNN: "While there may be no easy way to gauge what the majority of Greenland’s residents think about Trump’s ideas, Chemnitz suggested a referendum on Greenlandic independence could be held in future, and that closer collaboration with the US on business, defense, raw materials and tourism could come about as a result."

Not a bad consolation prize and I suspect the real goal because acquiring it isn't very likely.
 
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