—> US Sends More Immigrants to Salvadoran Prison | SCOTUS orders Admin to “facilitate” return of Abrego Garcia

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Calheel said:
I don't see any upside in this for Trump. Yes, it tangentially concerns immigration, which is theoretically his strong suit, but it also highlights two of Trump's weaknesses: incompetence and arrogance.

Keeping this issue in the news won't help his cratering approval numbers.
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I hope you're right and they just bring him back (which obviously El Salvador would do if they asked). But Trump doesn't think about news cycle stuff rationally like that (and he doesn't see incompetence and arrogance as weaknesses he has anyway). This is a pure power grab situation, and the chance of getting a ruling that in any way allows them to disappear people to El Salvador and be able to claim they can't get them back is hugely beneficial to what he and his Project 2025 goons want to be able to do.
 
rodoheel said:
I hope you're right and they just bring him back (which obviously El Salvador would do if they asked). But Trump doesn't think about news cycle stuff rationally like that (and he doesn't see incompetence and arrogance as weaknesses he has anyway). This is a pure power grab situation, and the chance of getting a ruling that in any way allows them to disappear people to El Salvador and be able to claim they can't get them back is hugely beneficial to what he and his Project 2025 goons want to be able to do.
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But the Supreme Court said that they couldn't disappear people.

So you're suggesting here, it seems, that Trump will disregard the "due process" issue in reliance on the fact that currently the only means of contesting the deportation comes via habeus, which is an after-the-fact thing, and once they have been deported to El Salvador it will be too late as a practical matter?

Might happen. Hopefully not. I tend to agree with Calheel a little bit, here. With the economy falling apart, nobody outside the hard-core base is going to GAF about deporting this guy. They are going to want the president to focus on the economy, and on doing something to help.

These specific facts also make Trump look weak. I'm quite surprised, actually, that Trump has let the lawyers go with the "we are powerless to get him back" given that Trump recoils at any suggestion that his power is bounded. Maybe Trump told them not to make that argument, and that's why the lawyer last week conceded everything (and was then suspended) -- what else was he supposed to do? Then when the concession was seized upon by the appeals court, Trump demanded the guy be suspended. But anyway, digression. It just seems unlikely that the guy who is going to remake the global economy is out there shouting about how the president of El Salvador is beyond his influence.
 
This case is highly significant and important and should be of concern to everyone who chooses not to blindly fall in line with Administration policy and decisions, and particularly vocal critics of these policies. This is because the Trump lawyers are arguing to SCOTUS that their practice "deporting" without due process can and should be applied to include US citizens, as well. So you see, it's not just about a legal immigrant being snatched off the street as whisked off a prison in El Salvador. It can happen, according to Trump's lawyers, to anyone they deem a threat, citizens included.
 


“I think we made the right decision,” Tom Homan told Newsmax on Saturday. “He’s an MS-13 gang member, according to our intelligence, and according to the intelligence of El Salvador.”
 
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