Wake Forest stepping up

I'm 53 with two kids hitting college in 8-10 years. It makes financial sense for me to quit work when the oldest one is a senior and let them go to Wake for free. Provided they can get in, but I think they will. I think the UNC plan also takes assets into account, not sure about Wake.
 
It sounds more generous to pay full tuition for those with family incomes under $200k. They don’t have the funds to cover all of their admits who fit within that income band. They also likely have a larger applicant pool from NC and therefore, better data to model how many students they’ll need to support at that level.
78% of enrollees are from Out of state. Still could mean that the largest number of applicants are NC residents but they would only have 22% of students subject to the income level test for free tuition.
 
I have a degree from Wake and am a big fan of the University. That said - they aren't doing this out of goodwill. There are business reasons. Namely, there is a looming demographic cliff, and I believe Wake is trying to position itself to be in a solid position when higher ed hits that cliff. Being able to pull NC students that otherwise may go to UNC or Davidson is certainly a motive. Plus, I believe Wake is trying to grow its student body. Even if it may not help tuition, it will help ancillary income (more fans) and donations down the road.
 
I'm 53 with two kids hitting college in 8-10 years. It makes financial sense for me to quit work when the oldest one is a senior and let them go to Wake for free. Provided they can get in, but I think they will. I think the UNC plan also takes assets into account, not sure about Wake.
Haha. My wife and I have joked about one of us quitting work to qualify for these tuition programs. But it wouldn't actually make sense for a bunch of reasons.
 
Assets are also taken into consideration:

The new initiative applies to North Carolina families with typical assets who apply for financial aid.


Program eligibility is based on total income, assuming “typical assets.” What does that mean?
Typical assets are determined internally and exclude the value of one’s primary residence and retirement accounts from consideration.
 
It sounds more generous to pay full tuition for those with family incomes under $200k. They don’t have the funds to cover all of their admits who fit within that income band. They also likely have a larger applicant pool from NC and therefore, better data to model how many students they’ll need to support at that level.
In addition to this, I’d bet they have data showing their North Carolina-raised alums are more likely to live in North Carolina post-college AND be more generous to Wake overall. So, create more alums from North Carolina.
 
This is very good news for me. I have enough in my 529 plan to cover 100% of the cost for my two grandchildren attending an in-state school.

Now I can add Wake Forest to the list for my hs senior grandson. Hopefully, that policy will still be in place when my 9th grade granddaughter graduates.

It would be nice if Elon does the same.

ETA : The parents make less than 200k/yr so will their kids qualify even though I will paying for them from their 529 plan ? I'm guessing my grandkids' 529 plan will be considered assets that are considered ?
 
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Curious why they are limiting it to NC residents being a private school.
Kind of like football recruiting. Keeping the talented in-state students closer to home has all sorts of collateral benefits. Probably also helps on the political front.
 
I have a degree from Wake and am a big fan of the University. That said - they aren't doing this out of goodwill. There are business reasons. Namely, there is a looming demographic cliff, and I believe Wake is trying to position itself to be in a solid position when higher ed hits that cliff. Being able to pull NC students that otherwise may go to UNC or Davidson is certainly a motive. Plus, I believe Wake is trying to grow its student body. Even if it may not help tuition, it will help ancillary income (more fans) and donations down the road.
I'm not sure if you're giving your alma mater quite enough credit. This isn't like we'll give you the first year for free to get kids in the door. I just don't think free tuition and living expenses is ever going to pay back in a cold business calculus either in the form of donations or other ancillary services.

I hope I'm wrong. If it does pay back, perhaps other schools will be incentivized to do the same thing.
 
This is very good news for me. I have enough in my 529 plan to cover 100% of the cost for my two grandchildren attending an in-state school.

Now I can add Wake Forest to the list for my hs senior grandson. Hopefully, that policy will still be in place when my 9th grade granddaughter graduates.

It would be nice if Elon does the same.

ETA : The parents make less than 200k/yr so will their kids qualify even though I will paying for them from their 529 plan ? I'm guessing my grandkids' 529 plan will be considered assets that are considered ?
I'm pretty sure 529 will count as assets.
 
I'm pretty sure 529 will count as assets.
Oh well, here's hoping my grandson gets accepted by his dream school this year ( UNC ). His high school has nominated him for the Morehead-Cain scholarship which I hope will add weight to his application. I don't expect he will be granted the Morehead but if he is, then I will be dancing on air :)
 
I'm pretty sure 529 will count as assets.
It certainly will. I have accounts set up for my nieces/nephew but they are in my name and are not 529 plans. I set it up this way so it won’t limit the financial aid they could get. I will just deduct the capital gains taxes from the amount we are able to give them and expect they will still come out ahead given they should qualify for substantially more financial aid since their parents (my wife’s brother and his wife) live pretty much paycheck to paycheck and have few assets.
 
It certainly will. I have accounts set up for my nieces/nephew but they are in my name and are not 529 plans. I set it up this way so it won’t limit the financial aid they could get. I will just deduct the capital gains taxes from the amount we are able to give them and expect they will still come out ahead given they should qualify for substantially more financial aid since their parents (my wife’s brother and his wife) live pretty much paycheck to paycheck and have few assets.
Pretty damn nice aunt and uncle!
 
Assets are also taken into consideration:

The new initiative applies to North Carolina families with typical assets who apply for financial aid.


Program eligibility is based on total income, assuming “typical assets.” What does that mean?
Typical assets are determined internally and exclude the value of one’s primary residence and retirement accounts from consideration.
This is great because my primary residence and retirement accounts are pretty much all I have, but they're worth a lot. Right now I'm pretty much just trying to break even to 59.5 to start drawing penalty free. Free tuition would help this plan a lot.
 
Haha. My wife and I have joked about one of us quitting work to qualify for these tuition programs. But it wouldn't actually make sense for a bunch of reasons.

My wife told me I have to start slacking off so I don’t get promoted before ours go in a decade lol

I’m still not sure I’d want them to go to Wake- she does, because we live in Winston, so they’d be close. I’m pretty sure even at 50% financial aid, which is likely where our income would fall, it would be more expensive than an in-state school. Its Ivy League tuition without the name recognition.
 
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