War on Universities, Lawyers & Expertise

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Federal Grants largely pay for basic research — as a former grants manager for a University department (decades ago), I have no issue reforming the use of grant money set aside for indirect costs / general overhead, that had to happen in the 90s, too, and there has definitely been backsliding. But the government is not just granting Harvard and other universities money to run the university. It is funding the American dominance in basic scientific research across virtually all STEM and medical fields.
 
The federal government approves student visas. Those docs are renewed regularly. They already have the list of foreign students in each school by country of origin.
 
Hope Estonians are kosher moving forward...if not then we'll be looking at young James Brown starting center come November.
 
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Federal Grants largely pay for basic research — as a former grants manager for a University department (decades ago), I have no issue reforming the use of grant money set aside for indirect costs / general overhead, that had to happen in the 90s, too, and there has definitely been backsliding. But the government is not just granting Harvard and other universities money to run the university. It is funding the American dominance in basic scientific research across virtually all STEM and medical fields.
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Imagine if the Biden or Obama Administrations had just openly and blatantly threatened Liberty, Hillsdale, Regent, and Bob Jones Universities on social media and in PR releases with their destruction if they didn't agree to every single demand to placed on them by Biden or Obama or people in their administrations, and they had the federal government go after the very sources of their financial ability to operate and stay open and independent of direct federal control. Conservatives and Fox News and other right-wing media would be screaming bloody murder from the rooftops and calling such a move tyranny, an illegal and radical exertion of federal dominance over private institutions, and all sorts of things.

And yet most Trumpers are gleefully in favor of Harvard being humbled and perhaps destroyed - including Republicans who actually attended the university and are alumni. Insane, and as you pointed out it's going to lead to a decline of American prestige and dominance in science, technology, and other fields, yet here we are. And all because Trumpers are pissed and resentful that most universities are liberal and that people with college degrees have generally fared well in this global economy while many of them haven't.
 
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Imagine if the Biden or Obama Administrations had just openly and blatantly threatened Liberty, Hillsdale, Regent, and Bob Jones Universities on social media and in PR releases with their destruction if they didn't agree to every single demand to placed on them by Biden or Obama or people in their administrations, and they had the federal government go after the very sources of their financial ability to operate and stay open and independent of direct federal control. Conservatives and Fox News and other right-wing media would be screaming bloody murder from the rooftops and calling such a move tyranny, an illegal and radical exertion of federal dominance over private institutions, and all sorts of things.

And yet most Trumpers are gleefully in favor of Harvard being humbled and perhaps destroyed - including Republicans who actually attended the university and are alumni. Insane, and as you pointed out it's going to lead to a decline of American prestige and dominance in science, technology, and other fields, yet here we are. And all because Trumpers are pissed and resentful that most universities are liberal and that people with college degrees have generally fared well in this global economy while many of them haven't.
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Mostly universities are liberal because diversity begets liberal thought. Hence the war on DEI.

I do not like liberal and conservative labels. Idiots in politics do not understand. You can't be liberal on every policy nor conservative on all policies.
 
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The post by Trump about re-allocating grant money to Trade Schools is probably a more politically astute way to frame some of this.

But on the list of foreign students at Harvard, it is hard to understand why the government agency that issues the student visas doesn’t already have that info …
 
nycfan said:
The post by Trump about re-allocating grant money to Trade Schools is probably a more politically astute way to frame some of this.

But on the list of foreign students at Harvard, it is hard to understand why the government agency that issues the student visas doesn’t already have that info …
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Of course they do have that info, but perhaps Elon, Big Balls and their woodchipper brigade corrupted the database.
 
nycfan said:
The post by Trump about re-allocating grant money to Trade Schools is probably a more politically astute way to frame some of this.

But on the list of foreign students at Harvard, it is hard to understand why the government agency that issues the student visas doesn’t already have that info …
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A significant percentage of Trump’s Administration knows it has this information.

Trump’s statement/claim is akin to Joe McCarthy’s claim that he has a list of State Department communists in his pocket.

MAGAts will gobble that shit up.
 
International students are such an easy target because they have no political cover.

I fear that Harvard is only the beginning. They're coming after the rest of the Ivy League next (well, maybe not Dartmouth).
 
Harvard is struggling financially and Trump knows it. The endowment numbers they mention are not cash or investments that can easily become liquid if required. By going down this route, Trump would be crippling a university that provides very valuable research to so many different areas of our lives. This is a huge mistake.
 
CRHeel94 said:
International students are such an easy target because they have no political cover.

I fear that Harvard is only the beginning. They're coming after the rest of the Ivy League next (well, maybe not Dartmouth).
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I anticipate the impending attacks on Berkeley, UM, UVA, and the like will be the inflection points. Those actions will trigger states to become legally and rhetorically openly hostile, in a manner that likely breaks through to pop culture. Hostility on wonky policy isn’t broadly attention grabbing, but when ESPN is forced to acknowledge the overlap between UM sports and Trump’s adolescent revanchism, public awareness goes to a different sphere.

Maybe.
 
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