War on Universities, Lawyers & Expertise

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Sure, but there are plenty of poor white people out there. And more than a few wealthy minorities. Certainly minorities are over represented in the poorer cohorts, but I think you could make an economic criteria and not run afoul of the law. Maybe I'm wrong.

Geography will probably be tougher. If you're going to all of a sudden start over representing inner cities or maybe in bizzaro land, rural areas, that could be a proxy. Probably not though unless you went to specific zip codes.

I think at one point you were working in admissions? Do you still work at a state school or private school? If so, what is Compliance's current thinking on economic or geographic criteria?
Looking at chapel hill, it doesn't look like they use economic disadvantage and they still do overweight legacy admissions, especially for out-of-state. They don't state they use geography but I think it's a pretty open secret as less qualified students from rural counties get in before more urban counties.

They do use economically disadvantaged criteria for kids transferring in after a couple years of community college. I think that's great. I wish they would expand that to all admissions, especially at the undergraduate level.
 
Ha...to use class as an admission category it would require admitting that such a thing exists in the Made Great Again America.
 
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At UNC it's "officially" gone, but does anyone think if Mr. got rocks who has been giving thousands and thousands year after year is not going to get preferential consideration when his child applies to UNC ?
I have posted this before-but at least 25 years ago the answer is absolutely no . I was on a work team that interviewed admissions officers all over the State Univ system . At UNC a team leader type old timer said they had done it once , one time, multimillion dollar donor. And she sounded like that was a recognized mistake
Now having spent 50 years in CH I have concluded that if your parent/grandparent is a Kenan Prof. or a Vice Chancellor-that type of thing-it helps a tad. I have zero proof either way. Just saw such kids get in always-mind you they were all damn good students and I do think CH HS's have a nice advantage-in most part no doubt because the top 25-35% of those students are pretty exceptional. Their parents are faculty or RTP Scientists etc HS reputation in success at UNC historically matters
 
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I have posted this before-but at least 25 years ago the answer is absolutely no . I was on a work team that interviewed admissions officers all over the State Univ system . At UNC a team leader type old timer said they had done it once , one time, multimillion dollar donor. And she sounded like that was a recognized mistake
Now having spent 50 years in CH I have concluded that if your parent/grandparent is a Kenan Prof. or a Vice Chancellor-that type of thing-it helps a tad. I have zero proof either way. Just saw such kids get in always-mind you they were all damn good students and I do think CH HS's have a nice advantage-in most part no doubt because the top 25-35% of those students are pretty exceptional. Their parents are faculty or RTP Scientists etc HS reputation in success at UNC historically matters
I can also attest that one's donor history has no impact on admission to the dental school.
 
A stand taken but vigilance over administration actions ought to be the rule moving forward. Seems shakey rather than firm at the top.

I.e., Roberts can’t be trusted.
 
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You know...when I saw Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe many, many years ago I had sort of an inkling that academia might not be a good career.
 


October 10 guest column by an equity investment titan — so far most of these institutions have refused to sign.

Rowan is a major financial supporter of Virginia Foxx.
 
"According to the Association of American Universities:
The Trump administration has enacted a lifetime cap of $100,000 in borrowing for graduate students and $200,000 for professional students. Graduate students can borrow up to $20,500 a year, and professional students can borrow up to $50,000 a year. These caps don't reflect the cost of actual degrees.

Starting July 1, 2026, the Trump administration is ending Grad PLUS loans, which all but the wealthiest students use to cover education costs not covered by other financial aid.

By reclassifying these degrees as "non-professional," the Trump administration is making education and certification harder to obtain for low-income, working, and middle-class people and devaluing these career paths.

This at a time when there already are shortages of people with this training, especially in rural and low-income communities.
It is not a coincidence that the majority of these are predominantly female occupations and "helping" professions. This is a targeted attack on women, children, the differently-abled, communities of color, and those whose lives are made better with these supports.
Absolutely none of this makes higher education more affordable, which is the real need. No one should have to accumulate massive debt to serve their communities as a teacher, nurse, etc. We have to work on lowering costs rather than cutting off access.
As my beloved husband put it, these people only want the wealthy to be comfortable and have dignity."

 
"According to the Association of American Universities:
The Trump administration has enacted a lifetime cap of $100,000 in borrowing for graduate students and $200,000 for professional students. Graduate students can borrow up to $20,500 a year, and professional students can borrow up to $50,000 a year. These caps don't reflect the cost of actual degrees.

Starting July 1, 2026, the Trump administration is ending Grad PLUS loans, which all but the wealthiest students use to cover education costs not covered by other financial aid.

By reclassifying these degrees as "non-professional," the Trump administration is making education and certification harder to obtain for low-income, working, and middle-class people and devaluing these career paths.

This at a time when there already are shortages of people with this training, especially in rural and low-income communities.
It is not a coincidence that the majority of these are predominantly female occupations and "helping" professions. This is a targeted attack on women, children, the differently-abled, communities of color, and those whose lives are made better with these supports.
Absolutely none of this makes higher education more affordable, which is the real need. No one should have to accumulate massive debt to serve their communities as a teacher, nurse, etc. We have to work on lowering costs rather than cutting off access.
As my beloved husband put it, these people only want the wealthy to be comfortable and have dignity."

They don’t want low income people improving their lives financially.
 
"According to the Association of American Universities:
The Trump administration has enacted a lifetime cap of $100,000 in borrowing for graduate students and $200,000 for professional students. Graduate students can borrow up to $20,500 a year, and professional students can borrow up to $50,000 a year. These caps don't reflect the cost of actual degrees.

Starting July 1, 2026, the Trump administration is ending Grad PLUS loans, which all but the wealthiest students use to cover education costs not covered by other financial aid.

By reclassifying these degrees as "non-professional," the Trump administration is making education and certification harder to obtain for low-income, working, and middle-class people and devaluing these career paths.

This at a time when there already are shortages of people with this training, especially in rural and low-income communities.
It is not a coincidence that the majority of these are predominantly female occupations and "helping" professions. This is a targeted attack on women, children, the differently-abled, communities of color, and those whose lives are made better with these supports.
Absolutely none of this makes higher education more affordable, which is the real need. No one should have to accumulate massive debt to serve their communities as a teacher, nurse, etc. We have to work on lowering costs rather than cutting off access.
As my beloved husband put it, these people only want the wealthy to be comfortable and have dignity."

This will absolutely make it harder for poor people to become doctors. I finished residency at UNC (one of the cheaper public schools) right at $300k in educational debt.
 
Note today the Floundering Dept of Education said Nursing is no longer a professional degree....So Nursing students Financial Loan cap just went way down .....................
 
This way of thinking reminds me of how the ruling class in some countries feels about highways.

Fuck ‘em. I’ve got a helicopter.
 
It will take years to repair the damage of Trump and Kennedy. Statement on CDC’s vaccines and autism webpage

Related, I recently worked in both Falls Church and San Antonio and PEC has been shut down entirely. The attitude is that lots of drugs are available and DOD employees should get by on those and don't need new drugs, regardless of the bid grid. Not a single new drug has been added to BCF since January. Criminals.
 
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