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“… ASU officials have no problem being alone or in a group working with the administration; they believe this would position ASU to help redesign what they see as a flawed system—and capture as much support and money from the federal government as possible, people familiar with the matter said.
“There’s always opportunity,” Crow said in an interview. “And there’s opportunity now.”
In recent months, ASU has communicated with the White House on a new financial-aid idea, offered to help vet international students and scrambled to calm Trump officials in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s killing.
Crow’s efforts have won praise at the top levels of the Trump administration. “I’m incredibly impressed with a lot of the work he’s done,” said Secretary of Education Linda McMahon, whom Crow has hosted on campus. “I think he’s a really smart guy.”
Crow’s critics argue university presidents must defy Trump and build strong alliances or risk their independence. “Safeguarding the well-being of one institution at the expense of the future of higher education writ large doesn’t work,” said Todd Wolfson, president of the American Association of University Professors. “I don’t think anyone who makes that call will be covered in glory when we look back at this moment in 20 years.”…”
JCTarheel82
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Arizona State is basically a glorified community college so this checks out.
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My dear (93 y/o) mother the guidance counselor at the local community college from it’s inception after Drumph was elected in 2016 and I asked what do you think said that everyone was complaining about the cost of education and now they can find out what ignorance costs?”
I found this similar “Gemini” info with a quick AI search:
The cost of ignorance is immeasurable, encompassing missed opportunities, financial mistakes, legal consequences, and harm to reputation
. It can be seen as the difference between where you are and where you want to be, as knowledge and informed decisions are the tools for personal and professional growth. While education requires an upfront investment, ignorance carries a permanent and often higher price through potential loss and stagnation.
So apparently AI agrees with mom’s point!
I found this similar “Gemini” info with a quick AI search:
The cost of ignorance is immeasurable, encompassing missed opportunities, financial mistakes, legal consequences, and harm to reputation
. It can be seen as the difference between where you are and where you want to be, as knowledge and informed decisions are the tools for personal and professional growth. While education requires an upfront investment, ignorance carries a permanent and often higher price through potential loss and stagnation.
So apparently AI agrees with mom’s point!
Mulberry Heel
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So much of Trumpism is about pure selfishness and total lack of empathy - "As long as me and my family are doing well I don't give a shit about you or your family. And I ain't willing to spend money or taxpayer funds to help you in any way." And that's the bottom line.
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In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost
The latest NBC News poll shows two-thirds of registered voters down on the value proposition of a degree. A majority said degrees were worth the cost a dozen years ago.
Poll: In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost
The latest NBC News poll shows two-thirds of registered voters down on the value proposition of a degree. A majority said degrees were worth the cost a dozen years ago.
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gtyellowjacket
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That is pretty stunning and seems to go against the empirical evidence although maybe changes in the economy haven't shaken out yet.In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost
The latest NBC News poll shows two-thirds of registered voters down on the value proposition of a degree. A majority said degrees were worth the cost a dozen years ago.
Poll: In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost
The latest NBC News poll shows two-thirds of registered voters down on the value proposition of a degree. A majority said degrees were worth the cost a dozen years ago.
I do think the university system as a whole is going to have to make some significant changes to lower prices. Something closer to high school with fewer amenities and a larger focus on teaching instead of subsidizing research.
Mulberry Heel
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I wonder how much of that change in perception is due to the economic factors mentioned - constantly rising tuition and dwindling federal loans and other ways to pay the tuition, changing job market - and how much is due to the right wing's massive assault on public and higher ed generally. There seems to be a disdain in many quarters now for universities and liberal ed in general, even though (of course) the people like Miller or Chris Rufo leading this assault will no doubt move heaven and earth to send their own kids to prestigious universities when they're old enough. Rufo, btw, is married to a Thai immigrant who came here illegally - just more evidence of the gross hypocrisy of these people.In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost
The latest NBC News poll shows two-thirds of registered voters down on the value proposition of a degree. A majority said degrees were worth the cost a dozen years ago.
Poll: In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost
The latest NBC News poll shows two-thirds of registered voters down on the value proposition of a degree. A majority said degrees were worth the cost a dozen years ago.
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Even the way the question was framed is based on the presupposition that college is nothing more than a trade school. Getting an well-rounded education and "specific job skills" training are two different things.In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost
The latest NBC News poll shows two-thirds of registered voters down on the value proposition of a degree. A majority said degrees were worth the cost a dozen years ago.
Poll: In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost
The latest NBC News poll shows two-thirds of registered voters down on the value proposition of a degree. A majority said degrees were worth the cost a dozen years ago.
