WH Correspondent’s Dinner - Trump evacuated, shooter in lobby

Callatoroy said:
lol. Only tds freaks are viewing this as a staged attempt. There is no corner in the round, padded rooms y’all live in. And there will be a ballroom. The biggest, bestest, goldest, and unlike anything we have ever seen.
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Always entertaining to see those who claim to want to reduce government fraud and waste celebrate the most obvious examples
 
Calheel said:
Nothing you can do about any of that. The long gun was surely hidden by clothes. You can’t scan the luggage of thousands of hotel guests; that is not how hotels work. There always has to be an initial security barrier at any event and that is where the guy was caught. Is it possible a Paris-style attack with multiple machine guns could have made it downstairs into the dining room? Maybe. But there was a shit ton of security there and it is highly unlikely they would have made it to the president.

Now, if someone wants to kill Wolf Blitzer, that would be pretty easy.
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I will let the guy's "manifesto" speak for itself on this, but suffice to say I strongly disagree
 
Oddball said:
I will let the guy's "manifesto" speak for itself on this, but suffice to say I strongly disagree
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Dude had mental issues. I’m not sure I trust his opinion on anything.

How would the hotel stop this? Give some examples. Are you going to install expensive luggage scanners for every guest forever? What hotel does that?

If you want to argue that events like this shouldn’t be held at public hotels, that is a legitimate argument. But if you are going to be at a public hospitality facility, there are certain inherent risks you are taking.
 
Calheel said:
Dude had mental issues. I’m not sure I trust his opinion on anything.

How would the hotel stop this? Give some examples. Are you going to install expensive luggage scanners for every guest forever? What hotel does that?

If you want to argue that events like this shouldn’t be held at public hotels, that is a legitimate argument. But if you are going to be at a public hospitality facility, there are certain inherent risks you are taking.
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Quite clearly they did not view hotel guests as a threat.

www.yahoo.com

I Slept Next to the Assassin in Hilton Room 10235. This Is a Security Fiasco

After the shots rang out. After someone shouted, “Get down!” After what seemed like an eternity staring at my colleagues’ shoes. After watching Trump’s cabinet rushed out—terror etched on many of thei...
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This was the exact opinion of the writer above who was not "crazy".

Have whatever opinion you want, pretty odd to be this sure of said opinion though.

Of course, this is the internet, so no doubt you will come back with '30 years of security experience' to establish your bona fides as to why....🤷
 
Look at the worst mass shooting in the country that was committed from a hotel. The shooter brought in trunks full of weapons and noone batted and eye.
 
Oddball said:
Quite clearly they did not view hotel guests as a threat.

www.yahoo.com

I Slept Next to the Assassin in Hilton Room 10235. This Is a Security Fiasco

After the shots rang out. After someone shouted, “Get down!” After what seemed like an eternity staring at my colleagues’ shoes. After watching Trump’s cabinet rushed out—terror etched on many of thei...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

This was the exact opinion of the writer above who was not "crazy".

Have whatever opinion you want, pretty odd to be this sure of said opinion though.

Of course, this is the internet, so no doubt you will come back with '30 years of security experience' to establish your bona fides as to why....🤷
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Again, what specific steps do you think the hotel should have done that it did not? Viewing guests as a threat or not is not a step.

Are you suggesting the Hilton should have searched luggage of all guests for the past month? There are 2200 guests at the hotel, and I've never been at a hotel that does that.

I am asking for specific things you think the hotel could have done to prevent this from happening.

It is super easy to be a critic after the fact. And there may well be security measures that could be implemented in the future, the same way NTSB suggests corrections after an accident investigation. But hot takes in the immediate aftermath of an attempted assassination are usually wrong.
 
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Trump’s Administration CHOSE to have that many Cabinet members and others in the line-of-succession attend the WHCD. And, for some reason the Secret Service went along with it; despite it being glaringly obvious the Secret Service hasn’t practiced removing that many protectees from a public place (likely any place).

It’s possible that Trump’s ballroom might not be able to host the White House Correspondents Dinner; the WH Correspondents is a private organization and the WHCD is a private event. Can it rent the White House Ballroom?

Also, Presidents will attend numerous events in hotels, convention centers, arenas, etc.
  • Republican/Democratic National Conventions
  • Debates
  • Speeches to groups such as the American Legion, Veterans of Foreign Wars, CPAC, NAACP, National Rifle Association, etc.
  • Athletic events
  • July 4th celebrations
  • G7 and G20 meetings
  • Inauguration events include numerous balls; there won’t be just one ball in Trump’s tacky building
  • Etc.
The President is not hunkering down in a single ballroom for all events; so, saying Trump’s ballroom will eliminate security issues found in a large hotel is just stupid.
 
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Calheel said:
Again, what specific steps do you think the hotel should have done that it did not? Viewing guests as a threat or not is not a step.

Are you suggesting the Hilton should have searched luggage of all guests for the past month? There are 2200 guests at the hotel, and I've never been at a hotel that does that.

I am asking for specific things you think the hotel could have done to prevent this from happening.
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I would add also that the Secret Service, not Hilton Hotels, is responsible for POTUS's safety.
 
TangledUpInBlue06 said:
I would add also that the Secret Service, not Hilton Hotels, is responsible for POTUS's safety.
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That particular Hilton has done A LOT to increase presidential security because of its unique history. Special entrances, special suite, special elevator, etc., etc. Obviously, SS has the ultimate responsibility, but the hotel has a role to play as well.

That said, it is incredibly easy to smuggle weapons into a hotel. Even after the Mandalay Bay shooting, no hotel has ever gone to the step of searching luggage of all guests. Obviously, that is a huge customer service issue. Could be awkward when the front desk looks at your vibrator.
 
Calheel said:
That particular Hilton has done A LOT to increase presidential security because of its unique history. Special entrances, special suite, special elevator, etc., etc. Obviously, SS has the ultimate responsibility, but the hotel has a role to play as well.

That said, it is incredibly easy to smuggle weapons into a hotel. Even after the Mandalay Bay shooting, no hotel has ever gone to the step of searching luggage of all guests. Obviously, that is a huge customer service issue. Could be awkward when the front desk looks at your vibrator.
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Maybe awkward for Ram.
 
Calheel said:
That particular Hilton has done A LOT to increase presidential security because of its unique history. Special entrances, special suite, special elevator, etc., etc. Obviously, SS has the ultimate responsibility, but the hotel has a role to play as well.

That said, it is incredibly easy to smuggle weapons into a hotel. Even after the Mandalay Bay shooting, no hotel has ever gone to the step of searching luggage of all guests. Obviously, that is a huge customer service issue. Could be awkward when the front desk looks at your vibrator.
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www.mediaite.com

What Was the Security Like Inside Trump's 2026 WHCD?

Mediaite Editor in Chief Joe DePaolo was inside the Washington Hilton Saturday evening prior to the WHCD and was stunned to encounter such lax security.
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You should be able to get some pretty basic ideas of the security measures that were not taken here.

And glad I was right before -- while not a "security expert", you apparently know well the additional measures the Washington Hilton has undertaken over the years to beef up security...
 
dukeman92 said:
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How fitting for calla to be in hiding recently on the Iran War thread and suddenly pop up on this one. Took an assassination attempt for him to feel comfortable returning to defend this total shitshow of an administration. And they've even effed up any sympathetic reaction to the shooting by using it to shill for Dear Leader's stupid ballroom. For MAGAs like calla I guess you take whatever good news you can get, though.
 
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