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Wolfspeed files for bankruptcy protection

The issue also was did what they make qualify for the CHIPS act - biden said yes trump folks no. And i believe some of their proposed output was contracted to a german company for EV production.

The Act primarily targets semiconductor device fabrication plants ("fabs")—factories that assemble, test, or package semiconductors. In contrast, Wolfspeed’s Chatham County facility produces silicon carbide (SiC) wafers—a materials-production site—not semiconductor devices. Because of this, key parts of the CHIPS grant program designated "advanced manufacturing facilities" may not include wafer-making plants
You're right but I suspect the real issue is that wolfspeed and the note holders that are going to be taking the haircut didn't make the right donations. I would bet if Apollo group had dropped $2 million on Trump's inauguration, this would have sailed through.

ETA: Mark Rowan is the CEO of Apollo group and he is a big Republican donor, but mostly to Congressional PACs. He made a $1M donation to Trump in 2020 but doesn't look like he did this time around. Might have cost him big.

James Zelter is the president of Apollo group and is also a big Republican donor but doesn't look like he donated to trump. Also was one of the big Wall Street heavyweights that signed a letter urging Congress to certify Biden's election in 2020.
 
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On convertibles? Really? I've never heard of that. Was this before or after the grant?
It’s one of the reason it is filing for bk to get out of the bad debt. It is in the FT article that GT and I linked (although I linked the free version).
 
The issue also was did what they make qualify for the CHIPS act - biden said yes trump folks no. And i believe some of their proposed output was contracted to a german company for EV production.

The Act primarily targets semiconductor device fabrication plants ("fabs")—factories that assemble, test, or package semiconductors. In contrast, Wolfspeed’s Chatham County facility produces silicon carbide (SiC) wafers—a materials-production site—not semiconductor devices. Because of this, key parts of the CHIPS grant program designated "advanced manufacturing facilities" may not include wafer-making plants
Aren't the wafers the base semi-finished raw material for the chips?
 
None of this shit makes any sense. God, I can't imagine the humiliation you must face on a daily basis. Let me know if you need help with digital coupons at Kroger, and please try not to berate the manager helping you just because you can't figure it out.

1. Bond holders charge interest because they take risk in extending a loan. They are often not made whole in bankruptcy. This has been a daily occurrence in the century since the Bankruptcy Act was passed.

2. Bankruptcy is about making the best of a bad situation. You're arguing against . . . businesses failing, I guess? Cool. You must have perfect prognostication skills, anticipating in every case whether a debtor company will or won't meet its obligations. Do you have any other forms of clairvoyance we should know about? Do you talk to ghosts? Aliens?

3. The debt holders negotiate for convertible bonds. They actually pay for the privilege. LOL that you don't know that. The debt holders WANT to convert to equity; that's why they negotiated for it. Yeah, they were hoping to have equity in a booming company and not one in reorg, but that's the risk that the investors took.

And it's their choice whether to take "substantial losses." This is the fundamental nature of all PE and VC investment. They invest in firms with unsteady cash flows. They are never planning to get their money back from the notes. The payoff is the equity conversion.

In most VC transactions, in fact, the investors get preferred equity, which is like debt except there is no legal obligation to pay. Why? Because they (meaning the company and the investors) do not want anyone putting the company in bankruptcy while it's in its growth stage. Taking "substantial losses" and then recovering from them is literally the point.

4. You are fucking clueless about all things related to finance, so it's amazingly rich to see you spouting off at Calheel. You going to accuse me of financial illiteracy as well? I would say that it's not your fault you were born stupid, but I'm confident that your stupidity was a conscious choice.
I actually could use help with those Kroger digital coupons. That shit never works for me and it is embarrassing at the cash register.
 
Yeah, that's been happening a lot. Because China has an industrial policy. The point of the CHIPs Act was to do the same for America. Let the government provide some early stage venture financing because the private sector VC ignores critical sectors (among other reasons).

People are going back to the Solyndra stupidity. Yes, Solyndra was an investment that didn't pan out. There were other companies who were funded by that provision. One of them was called Tesla. If you look at any portfolio

The reason that China has built out its industrial capacity is that it funds everyone with a decent business plan. Plenty of the Chinese firms fail. But now they have built out a massive industrial juggernaut.
Read a very interesting article regarding how China funds competition and builds up to the winners being very successful. It also helps build infrastructure where the non successful competitors are, for future attempts.

Sounds like something that might actually grow industry here better than tarrifs and market manipulation.
 
I actually could use help with those Kroger digital coupons. That shit never works for me and it is embarrassing at the cash register.
food lion honors everyone else's coupons - digital, paper and no matter how old!

i don't do it but i see the crazy couponers do it all of the time.
 
It’s one of the reason it is filing for bk to get out of the bad debt. It is in the FT article that GT and I linked (although I linked the free version).
Convertibles don't typically charge an interest payment. In simple terms, they will usually roll the interest into the principal. When they are converted to equity or when they are refinanced, you pay the principal and accrued interest.

So it's very unlikely that the interest payments from these convertible notes were cutting into their cash flow, especially since they were trying to preserve it. But a lot of their debt was coming due this year and next year. Ideally, for the company and the bondholders, the stock has appreciated enough that it makes sense to convert their debt into equity which pays off the principal and any interest payments. But wolfspeed stock is down like 90% this year so that's not an option. Another option would be to refinance the debt but interest rates have gone way up since they first took on these convertible notes so not a great option either. So the main option they had left was the bankruptcy.
 
Convertibles don't typically charge an interest payment. In simple terms, they will usually roll the interest into the principal. When they are converted to equity or when they are refinanced, you pay the principal and accrued interest.
OMG there are four errors there alone.

1. What you are talking about is a zero. Zeroes are not common in convertible debt. In fact they are rare, because they wouldn't make any sense. If, at time of conversion, the equity is worth less than the strike price, it is highly likely that the company does not have the cash to repay all that debt. I have never seen a zero convertible in a venture context. But what do I know, I only taught finance.

2. You are probably thinking of convertible preferred, which is completely different. It's more common in startups, but it is not debt. The payments are not interest but dividends, and investors generally speaking cannot force repayment (which is a feature, not a bug). The fact that Apollo wanted debt means they were not interested in a zero-coupon structure.

3. Learn accounting. Even if this was a zero coupon bond, the interest still has to be accounted for on a rolling basis. Basic accounting principles -- and I mean BASIC -- are that lumpy but recurring expenses require depreciation, amortization or (in this case) imputation. You are accusing others of lacking financial literacy when you appear not to understand a concept taught in the second week of accounting class.

Like the other contrarian trolls, you have no idea how dramatically you give yourself away. Because you know nothing, you can't recognize knowledge. We can. And you have none.

4. This is a minor point, but the whole point of refinancing corporate debt is to avoid paying the principal. It gets rolled over.

What you're describing is a home mortgage. LOL. Hate to tell you buddy, but there's a whole world out there. You're only living in a tiny, tiny sliver. What is true of your rambler is not true of corporate debt.
 
I try. I try. Shit never works for me. Technically, it’s the Ralph’s app. But I assume it is the same stupid app.
I had trouble with it too because there's a counterintuitive step. You need to go into the app, select whatever deal you want . . . and then it just sort of automatically shows up when you use your Kroger card. But it doesn't show up right away -- the discount is only applied after you click "pay now." That was my problem. I thought it didn't work because everything was ringing up at the regular price (or the card price), but you just need to wait until end of transaction.
 
I had trouble with it too because there's a counterintuitive step. You need to go into the app, select whatever deal you want . . . and then it just sort of automatically shows up when you use your Kroger card. But it doesn't show up right away -- the discount is only applied after you click "pay now." That was my problem. I thought it didn't work because everything was ringing up at the regular price (or the card price), but you just need to wait until end of transaction.
In the interests of full disclosure, I sometimes get the app to work. I say about half the time. But it is very frustrating for me and the octogenarian Ralph’s cashiers when it doesn’t work.

Tying this altogether, maybe Wolfspeed can transition from the EV chip market, which Trump and Musk are killing, to the grocery chip market. They could build a new app for Kroger that relies on the fastest chips. I see this as a win win for everyone.
 
None of this shit makes any sense. God, I can't imagine the humiliation you must face on a daily basis. Let me know if you need help with digital coupons at Kroger, and please try not to berate the manager helping you just because you can't figure it out.
That's good sass. Upvote...
 
I had trouble with it too because there's a counterintuitive step. You need to go into the app, select whatever deal you want . . . and then it just sort of automatically shows up when you use your Kroger card. But it doesn't show up right away -- the discount is only applied after you click "pay now." That was my problem. I thought it didn't work because everything was ringing up at the regular price (or the card price), but you just need to wait until end of transaction.
I hate it. They already have the card to track our purchases, why do they need to force us to use the app. I called customer service but they really didn't care. I once walked out and left my items at the check out because of the app.

If they must have an app, make it work well and keep it simple. There are many examples of very good company apps.
 
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