2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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NC has become a bad combo of rural white racists and bigots and racist and bigoted transplants.
 
It still was when I got here in 70. From Highschool Road to Greensboro St. was dirt and there was a stop sign where they met. Calavander was out in the sticks.
 
finesse said:
It still was when I got here in 70. From Highschool Road to Greensboro St. was dirt and there was a stop sign where they met. Calavander was out in the sticks.
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That is until the great Carrboro Expressway was finished
 
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Purely anecdotal but maybe there is hope. Was actually talking to 3 people this weekend who worked for this man and still align themselves with the GOP. All 3 of them are voting for Harris because they are never Trumpers. All 3 firmly believe Trump wouldn't have happened on Jesse's watch. No way to know if that's true or not but found it interesting.
 
336Heel said:
Purely anecdotal but maybe there is hope. Was actually talking to 3 people this weekend who worked for this man and still align themselves with the GOP. All 3 of them are voting for Harris because they are never Trumpers. All 3 firmly believe Trump wouldn't have happened on Jesse's watch. No way to know if that's true or not but found it interesting.
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They think Jesse Helms would've opposed Trump?
 
WBroylesH said:
They think Jesse Helms would've opposed Trump?
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Yes. Reasoning that Trump's moral failings would have been so repugnant to Helms that he would have done everything he could to make sure Trump wasn't the nominee. Not that Helms would have run against him but as a leader of the party Helms would have found a way to stop Trump.
 
336Heel said:
Yes. Reasoning that Trump's moral failings would have been so repugnant to Helms that he would have done everything he could to make sure Trump wasn't the nominee. Not that Helms would have run against him but as a leader of the party Helms would have found a way to stop Trump.
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This is just so laughably naive. Helms would have had as much luck stopping Trump as everyone else in the Republican Party did, and he would have been more likely to end up like either Mitch McConnell (tolerating/grudgingly supporting Trump) or even Lindsey Graham (going from warning about the dangers of Trump to full-fledged hypocritical Trump sycophant) than to end up leaving the party on principle like, say, Liz Cheney.
 
336Heel said:
Yes. Reasoning that Trump's moral failings would have been so repugnant to Helms that he would have done everything he could to make sure Trump wasn't the nominee. Not that Helms would have run against him but as a leader of the party Helms would have found a way to stop Trump.
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There are plenty of Republicans who find him repugnant. Unfortunately, once he became the nominee most of them fell in line.
 
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