2024 Pre-Election Political Polls | POLL - Trump would have had 7 point lead over Biden

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Stein is gonna crush Robinson
Depends on what you mean by "crush." I think Stein winning more than, say, 53% of the vote would be surprising/impressive. Being a statewide candidate with an "R" beside your name pretty much guarantees you at least 45% of the vote, no matter how terrible and repulsive a candidate.
 
Depends on what you mean by "crush." I think Stein winning more than, say, 53% of the vote would be surprising/impressive. Being a statewide candidate with an "R" beside your name pretty much guarantees you at least 45% of the vote, no matter how terrible and repulsive a candidate.
I would consider 53-47 to be crushing him. Especially if Trump carries the state as expected at the top of the ticket.

I didn’t mean to imply that it would be 60-40 in the governors race or anything like that.
 


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Note though that their data is pretty old — August 2-9. But stout in that they interviewed 1200 respondents and whittled that down to 800 in their poll results.
 
I've been saying for a while now that I think that North Carolina is going to put us all to bed early on Election Night. As crazy as it might sound to say, Trump is perhaps only the third or fourth most batfuckshit crazy candidate on the ballot in North Carolina. He would struggle to carry the state again by himself- North Carolina was the thinnest of razor thin margins for Trump in 2020- but with some of the other asylum escapees on the ballot in NC, I think Trump is going to get dragged down even further. I think that Harris is going to run up such large margins in places like the Research Triangle area, where there is an enormous voting bloc of Indian- and- Asian-Americans, that it's going to overcome the deficit she will run in the rural parts of the state.
 
I've been saying for a while now that I think that North Carolina is going to put us all to bed early on Election Night. As crazy as it might sound to say, Trump is perhaps only the third or fourth most batfuckshit crazy candidate on the ballot in North Carolina. He would struggle to carry the state again by himself- North Carolina was the thinnest of razor thin margins for Trump in 2020- but with some of the other asylum escapees on the ballot in NC, I think Trump is going to get dragged down even further. I think that Harris is going to run up such large margins in places like the Research Triangle area, where there is an enormous voting bloc of Indian- and- Asian-Americans, that it's going to overcome the deficit she will run in the rural parts of the state.
IMO one of two things is going to happen:

--Trump is going to win the state by turning out his (rural) base and in the process boost the relatively unpopular/crazy statewide Republican candidates to having a legitimate chance to win their elections
--The relatively unpopular/crazy statewide Republican candidates are going to be such an anchor on Trump (depressing turnout/enthusiasm) that Harris has a real chance to carry the state.

I really hope it's the latter. But IMO either is pretty clearly possible.
 
IMO one of two things is going to happen:

--Trump is going to win the state by turning out his (rural) base and in the process boost the relatively unpopular/crazy statewide Republican candidates to having a legitimate chance to win their elections
--The relatively unpopular/crazy statewide Republican candidates are going to be such an anchor on Trump (depressing turnout/enthusiasm) that Harris has a real chance to carry the state.

I really hope it's the latter. But IMO either is pretty clearly possible.
Fully agree with you, either scenario is very much possible.
 
If Harris wins NC, we can all go to bed early.

For me, the make-or-break on Election Night will be PA. In 2016 I knew trouble was brewing when the numbers from Philly started looking like it wasn’t going to be enough.
 
Mm

This is tongue in cheek, but have you met rural NC voters?

I think a number of them are finally buying into MLK’s dream of people not being judged by their skin, but by the content of their character. Just in a backwards kind of way.
 
If Harris wins NC, we can all go to bed early.

For me, the make-or-break on Election Night will be PA. In 2016 I knew trouble was brewing when the numbers from Philly started looking like it wasn’t going to be enough.

In 2016, I also got worried when the Miami (FL) numbers started coming back. Funny to think about that now. I really don’t entertain the thought of Florida being in play. I did in 2016.
 
In 2016, I also got worried when the Miami (FL) numbers started coming back. Funny to think about that now. I really don’t entertain the thought of Florida being in play. I did in 2016.
I had a bad feeling about a week before Election Night in 2016. I still thought Hillary would win, but saw a slim path to Trump winning. When it became apparent that PA was going to drop, I felt sick.
 
Stein is gonna crush Robinson
any chance this gives you some pause in casting your vote for Trump ?

Considered a chump by world leaders
Horrible record as a crisis manager
Ignorant when it comes to economic issues
Found liable for sexual abuse
A convicted felon x34
A dangerous risk to our national security
A disgusting role model for your children

 
I had a bad feeling about a week before Election Night in 2016. I still thought Hillary would win, but saw a slim path to Trump winning. When it became apparent that PA was going to drop, I felt sick.

My wife was 8-months pregnant with our second child at the time. She went to bed before all the results were in but things weren’t looking good, and we were both in shock. I finally went up to bed when it became clear that Trump was going to win. My wife asked me if things had gotten any better. I told her Trump won. Being 8-months pregnant, she was very emotional. She got really upset, and was trying get me to tell her that everything was going to be alright. I was unable to do it.

The next day, I left the house to go to work and it felt like the apocalypse had hit. The city was eerily quiet. I went to get my flu shot that day, and the woman who gave me the shot was like, “What the hell happened? I didn’t see that see that coming.”
 
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My wife was 11-months pregnant with our second child at the time. She went to bed before all the results were in but things weren’t looking good, and we were both in shock. I finally went up to bed when it became clear that Trump was going to win. My wife asked me if things had gotten any better. I told her Trump won. Being 11-months pregnant, she was very emotional. She got really upset, and was trying get me to tell her that everything was going to be alright. I was unable to do it.

The next day, I left the house to go to work and it felt like the apocalypse had hit. The city was eerily quiet. I went to get my flu shot that day, and the woman who gave me the shot was like, “What the hell happened? I didn’t see that see that coming.”
11 months pregnant?
 
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