2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024
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haroldminer
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Communism…what decade are we in?
Way to be current.
Way to be current.
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It was also based on a false premise and was factually inaccurate and misleading/
superrific
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That might be true for the average voter.
For those of us paying attention to the details, we might note that the current policy has been implemented via Interim Final Rules from HHS and I think one other agency. Well, it takes time to go through rulemaking. I don't know when the rulemakings here started, but my guess would be early 2023 based on the timing (and perhaps before that).
In addition, it's entirely unclear whether these interim final rules will be deemed legal. I was talking to a former colleague not long ago who used to teach immigration law. His current knowledge of it is probably "fair to good," but anyway, he said that the key to those rules was the availability of phone apps and the check-in stations in Central America (I don't remember the formal names). Otherwise the rules would be in violation of immigration statutes and previous court rulings. Well, those things didn't happen immediately.
Point is, the policies we are seeing now are the result of work being put in years ago, and it's just now coming into effect. It couldn't have been done in 2023, because none of that infrastructure or rulemaking could have been ready. I don't know enough in this sphere to know whether these rules will be deemed kosher -- a question that depends in part on whether it's the 9th or 5th who get the legal challenges. And there are still too few resources. One of the big things the Rs like to complain about is "catch and release" -- i.e. letting people be paroled while they await their hearings. Well, the backlog there cannot be reduced without Congressional action.
Super, your first sentence is the key point.
Politics are about emotion, and nothing is more emotion-provoking than the border. Less than 1% of the electorate (and likely 0% of the swing voters) are going to think about any of the legal niceties you posted. Trump didn't get hung up on such things, and neither will the voters. So, in my mind, the reduction in border crossing numbers now is very much a double-edged sword politically.
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‘We love Hitler. We love Trump.’: White supremacists march through Howell • Michigan Advance
About a dozen masked white supremacists marched through downtown Howell on Saturday, chanting “Heil Hitler” and carrying signs with messages like “White Lives Matter” and “End the War on White Children.” Howell, which lies between Lansing and Detroit, has long had a reputation for extremist...
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‘We love Hitler. We love Trump.’: White supremacists march through Howell
Group hung Nazi and KKK banners on highway overpass
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Howell, which lies between Lansing and Detroit, has long had a reputation for extremist activity. It became known as a Ku Klux Klan (KKK) hotspot in the 1970s and 80s when infamous Michigan KKK Grand Dragon Robert Miles held hate rallies and cross burnings at his Cohoctah Township property north of Howell until his death in 1992.
That reputation has lingered, continually fueled by incidents such as a well-publicized auction of a Klan robe in 2005, and hate messages posted online by Howell students in 2014 after a basketball game with a racially-mixed Grand Blanc basketball team. Community leaders have worked hard to fight that image, including a symbolic scrubbing of the steps of the historic Livingston County courthouse in 1995 following a KKK rally.
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The group eventually returned to their vehicles, one of which Farrell noted was a Mercedes with a Pennsylvania license plate, while another vehicle had a Michigan plate.
“There were no threats, no violence, and they didn’t appear to have weapons,” she said. “They definitely looked intimidating but so does anyone dressed like that. The reality is no one carries those signs, chants that crap, and dresses in tactical clothes if they’re not looking for trouble. They just made a mistake coming to Howell, a mistake that I hope no one makes again. This community may have its flaws but what I saw was a united front denouncing that group’s violent, racist, anti-semitic propaganda.”
According to a joint statement by the City of Howell, the Livingston Diversity Council, and the Howell Chamber of Commerce, Howell Police made contact with several of the demonstrators and confirmed that they came from “as far away as Saginaw and Macomb counties,” although one participant was believed to have come from nearby Fowlerville. …”
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It sounds like the town has cleaned up its act in the nearly 30 years since Bob Miles died, but still is a draw for these KKKretins.
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Trump the other day said something like, Kamala Harris wants to give everyone free healthcare, can you believe that? And I was thinking, is he just outright campaigning for her now?
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Lived close to there. Went to law school in Michigan.‘We love Hitler. We love Trump.’: White supremacists march through Howell • Michigan Advance
About a dozen masked white supremacists marched through downtown Howell on Saturday, chanting “Heil Hitler” and carrying signs with messages like “White Lives Matter” and “End the War on White Children.” Howell, which lies between Lansing and Detroit, has long had a reputation for extremist...
‘We love Hitler. We love Trump.’: White supremacists march through Howell
Group hung Nazi and KKK banners on highway overpass
“…
Howell, which lies between Lansing and Detroit, has long had a reputation for extremist activity. It became known as a Ku Klux Klan (KKK) hotspot in the 1970s and 80s when infamous Michigan KKK Grand Dragon Robert Miles held hate rallies and cross burnings at his Cohoctah Township property north of Howell until his death in 1992.
That reputation has lingered, continually fueled by incidents such as a well-publicized auction of a Klan robe in 2005, and hate messages posted online by Howell students in 2014 after a basketball game with a racially-mixed Grand Blanc basketball team. Community leaders have worked hard to fight that image, including a symbolic scrubbing of the steps of the historic Livingston County courthouse in 1995 following a KKK rally.
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The group eventually returned to their vehicles, one of which Farrell noted was a Mercedes with a Pennsylvania license plate, while another vehicle had a Michigan plate.
“There were no threats, no violence, and they didn’t appear to have weapons,” she said. “They definitely looked intimidating but so does anyone dressed like that. The reality is no one carries those signs, chants that crap, and dresses in tactical clothes if they’re not looking for trouble. They just made a mistake coming to Howell, a mistake that I hope no one makes again. This community may have its flaws but what I saw was a united front denouncing that group’s violent, racist, anti-semitic propaganda.”
According to a joint statement by the City of Howell, the Livingston Diversity Council, and the Howell Chamber of Commerce, Howell Police made contact with several of the demonstrators and confirmed that they came from “as far away as Saginaw and Macomb counties,” although one participant was believed to have come from nearby Fowlerville. …”
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It sounds like the town has cleaned up its act in the nearly 30 years since Bob Miles died, but still is a draw for these KKKretins.
I still have friends who live close to Howell and from what they've said it hasn't cleaned up anything but it does try to ignore the morons which, I suppose, is all it can do but still there's still a massive Klan presence in the area and has some of those paramilitary groups that conduct "maneuvers" nearby.
That’s one way to counter-program the DNC, I guess.
nyc has the best gif game out there. Love it!
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Kamala and Tim going after one electoral vote... I love it !
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Watch: Tim Walz speaking live in home state of Nebraska
U.S. Democratic vice presidential candidate Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is speaking live in his home state of Nebraska. This marks Walz's first visit to the state since becoming the Democratic vice presidential nominee, MSNBC reports. ALSO READ: Donald Trump deep in debt while foreign money...
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In all sincerity, I don't think anyone who proclaims to be a Republican at this point can be humiliated.
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No, I'm sure she has heard it and is lying. But who cares, hear or not, she should be able to agree that it is wrong.
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I was tired of trump around 2014.
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Nebraska GOP may make one more attempt at repealing the way their electoral votes are allocated before this election (they failed an earlier attempt this year, infuriating Trump), but this is a big reason why Nebraska went this way, to draw attention (and advertising dollars) to a low electoral vote state.Kamala and Tim going after one electoral vote... I love it !
Watch: Tim Walz speaking live in home state of Nebraska
U.S. Democratic vice presidential candidate Minnesota Governor Tim Walz is speaking live in his home state of Nebraska. This marks Walz's first visit to the state since becoming the Democratic vice presidential nominee, MSNBC reports. ALSO READ: Donald Trump deep in debt while foreign money...