2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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superrific said:
Why would anyone doubt it? He did the same thing with the border legislation. And with the arms shipments to Ukraine (for which he was rightfully impeached). Of course he is trying to prevent a cease fire in Israel. That's just what he does.
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No.

I, for one, am not willing to let him slip off with a "That's just what he does".

I know we've all been desensitized (proverbially boiled frogs), but I'm going to ask every single person who reads this post to take a step back and think about how enormously fucked up this is (normally I use asterisks for the f-word, but this time it's intentional).

He is proactively asking that innocents lives continue to be be lost (assumabley for at least 70 some more days) because the cessation of the slaughter in order to move a peace process forward would be inconvenient to his electoral chances.

I'm sorry, but that's fucked up. Inhuman. Monstrous. Enraging. Knowing that the ratio of innocents to combatants will be at least (and very conservatively) 10:1, not only does he want it to continue, he's petitioning for it to continue because it maybe gives him a sliver of more hope of regaining the presidency. These are children, mothers, students, elderly... regular people dealing with about the shittiest hand dealt to any of us as humans and he actively wants to sacrifice them to his ambition.

I know there's nothing we can do about it proximally, but I damn well refuse to become desensitized to it.
 
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Ddseddse said:
No.

I, for one, am not willing to let him slip off with a "That's just what he does".

I know we've all been desensitized (proverbially boiled frogs), but I'm going to ask every single person who reads this post to take a step back and think about how enormously fucked up this is (normally I use asterisks for the f-word, but this time it's intentional).

He is proactively asking that innocents lives continue to be be lost (assumable for at least 70 some more days) because the cessation of the slaughter in order to move a peace process forward would be inconvenient to his electoral chances.

I'm sorry, but that's fucked up. Inhuman. Monstrous. Enraging. Knowing that the ratio of innocents to combatants will be at least (and very conservatively) 10:1, not only does he want it to continue, he's petitioning for it to continue because it maybe gives him a sliver of more hope of regaining the presidency. These are children, mothers, students, elderly... regular people dealing with about the shittiest hand dealt to any of us as humans he actively wants to sacrifice them to his ambition.

I know there's nothing we can do about it proximally, but I damn well refuse to become desensitized to it.
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Well, he is a narcissistic sociopath. It's textbook. And the MAGA cult is nothing but others with personality disorders, racists and bigots. That's the only reason he has support even with all the vile, evil things he has done.
 
Ddseddse said:
No.

I, for one, am not willing to let him slip off with a "That's just what he does".

I know we've all been desensitized (proverbially boiled frogs), but I'm going to ask every single person who reads this post to take a step back and think about how enormously fucked up this is (normally I use asterisks for the f-word, but this time it's intentional).

He is proactively asking that innocents lives continue to be be lost (assumabley for at least 70 some more days) because the cessation of the slaughter in order to move a peace process forward would be inconvenient to his electoral chances.

I'm sorry, but that's fucked up. Inhuman. Monstrous. Enraging. Knowing that the ratio of innocents to combatants will be at least (and very conservatively) 10:1, not only does he want it to continue, he's petitioning for it to continue because it maybe gives him a sliver of more hope of regaining the presidency. These are children, mothers, students, elderly... regular people dealing with about the shittiest hand dealt to any of us as humans he actively wants to sacrifice them to his ambition.

I know there's nothing we can do about it proximally, but I damn well refuse to become desensitized to it.
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Yeah this is different than sabotaging the border deal. This needs to be broadcast widely if it is indeed true. What a sick person if he is actively disrupting a peace deal that would end innocents being killed not to mention free the hostages.
 
UNCRx85 said:
yeah, if this report isn't true, she just put the idea in his head and it's only a matter of time until it is.

I hope we learn more about what "the reporting" is that she's mentioning here. But it dovetails perfectly with his torpedoing the border deal only so that Biden wouldn't get something important done. People, especially kids, starving and dying over there and he's trying to undermine negotiations that could help them. People like (especially) him make me wish I believed in hell.
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CLT Heel said:
If this is even close to accurate (which I sadly believe that it is…), this should disqualify this moron from ANY leadership position, much less the presidency. This man is unserious about helping ANYONE if it doesn’t in some way advance his agenda, which in this case is getting him back into the role of president. He isn’t fit to be the leader of a volunteer PTA organization, forget about the U.S.
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It's right out of the GQP playbook...

Nixon screwed with the Paris Peace talks to end the war in Viet Nam
Reagan did the same with the hostage release in Iran

I have little doubt that Trump has prevailed upon Bibi to demur on a ceasefire before the election. That said, I have little doubt Bibi needed to be persuaded to work for an end to the conflict.
 
aGDevil2k said:
I was thinking how there's never been a Gen X candidate for president (Harris is 4 months shy)....and it hit me:

There has never been a president born in the 1950s, and now, there likely never will be. Seems a bit wild to me. 4 in the 1940s, though.
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Those younger boomers are too busy counting their money.

Scrooge Mcduck GIF
 
Rock said:
I wish I had your abilities. I'm not shy or introverted, I just have that almost Canadian gene where I'm like sorry for bothering sorry..
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I hate it when people knock on my door for political issues/candidates and there is no way I will inflict that on others. Phone calls are a bit less intrusive but one of my college jobs was telemarketer (long before caller ID existed) and I'm not going back to calling strangers, especially now when no one answers the phone.
 
aGDevil2k said:
I was thinking how there's never been a Gen X candidate for president (Harris is 4 months shy)....and it hit me:

There has never been a president born in the 1950s, and now, there likely never will be. Seems a bit wild to me. 4 in the 1940s, though.
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Up until Kamala, BHO was the only major party nominee to have been born after 1947.
 
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