2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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grimes70 said:
I believe it started before Trump. He and the loons just amplified it. There was a time before congress folks went flying off every weerkend to raise money. They stayed in DC and attended the same "must attend" parties thrown by the socialites. Newt and his cohorts began the animus we see today.
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Yes, this animosity and vilifying the opponent began with Newet Gingrich and the rise of rightwing talking heads like Limbaugh, but was still more civil before Trump, who blew everything up in a bad way.
 
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Teamsters’ Black Caucus Endorses Harris While Parent Union Stays Silent

The move aligns the caucus with other big organized-labor groups, but the Teamsters president, who spoke at the Republican convention, has indicated he is open to backing Trump.
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Teamsters’ Black Caucus Endorses Harris While Parent Union Stays Silent​

The move aligns the caucus with other big organized-labor groups, but the Teamsters president, who spoke at the Republican convention, has indicated he is open to backing Trump.
 
Kingpin said:
Yes, this animosity and vilifying the opponent began with Newet Gingrich and the rise of rightwing talking heads like Limbaugh, but was still more civil before Trump, who blew everything up in a bad way.
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It began way before that. I mean, it's been there since the beginning, but if we're talking about our current cycle -- you have to go back at least as far as 88.
 
Does Trump have PTSD?

“… Republican donors and Trump campaign officials are struggling to understand why Trump seems to be sabotaging his own candidacy. One theory, according to sources, is that Trump has been experiencing trauma from his near-death experience following the assassination attempt at the rally last month in Butler, Pennsylvania.

“He’s been watching that seven-second clip of how close he was to getting shot right in the head—over and over and over again,” the Republican close to the campaign said. “He may actually legit have PTSD.”

A campaign official confirmed that the shooting continues to weigh on Trump. “He’s been through a lot,” the official said. (The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment.)

… Another theory is that Trump can’t let go of the fact that Biden dropped out. “They cheated by swapping Biden,” Trump has told people, according to a person who recently spent time with the Republican presidential nominee.

The Trump campaign believed that Harris’s honeymoon would fade, but instead, the opposite has happened: Her momentum is surging. Trump’s advisers have implored him to launch policy attacks on Harris instead of using juvenile nicknames like Laffin Kamala and Kamabla. Longtime Trump confidant Roger Stone is among those who want Trump to change tactics. “I do think it’s counterproductive to call her stupid,” he told me.

Trump has rejected his team’s advice. According to the Republican close to the campaign, Trump tells his advisers: “I know what I’m doing.” …”

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Trump Allies Fear He’s Sabotaging His Own Campaign

The former president can’t get over feeling “cheated” by Joe Biden’s exit from the race, says one source, while another speculates he might “have PTSD” following last month’s assassination attempt.
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superrific said:
It began way before that. I mean, it's been there since the beginning, but if we're talking about our current cycle -- you have to go back at least as far as 88.
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I’d say it has to go back at least as far as 1968 - that’s when the GOP started with the Southern Strategy. Nixon’s use of it began in late ‘69. Nothing respectable about the Southern Strategy or Silent Majority.

Jesse Helms certainly wasn’t respecting his opposition in any of his campaigns, beginning with “Vote for Jesse! He’s one of us,” in 1972 against Nick Galifinakis.

Probably Jesse’s first instance of disrespecting a political opponent was in 1950, when he and Tom Ellis helped doctor a photo so it showed Mrs. Frank Porter Graham dancing with a black man.

Like you said, disrespecting one’s political opponents likely goes back to the beginning.
 
superrific said:
It began way before that. I mean, it's been there since the beginning, but if we're talking about our current cycle -- you have to go back at least as far as 88.
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I dunno - I really do think the game changed with Gingrich and the rise of Republican obstructionism as a strategy back in the 90s, happening around the same time as the rise of conservative talk radio. I wasn't old enough to experience the 1988 election, but what happened in that cycle that seems of a kind with the current political temperature and animosity? Wasn't it just the mostly lighthearted making fun of Dukakis looking dumb in a tank?

If you want you could point back to the "Southern strategy" of co-opting southern evangelicals into conservatism through culture war grievance that was initiated in the late 70s. To me that's the earliest of the three clear "fundamental shifts in the political atmosphere/discourse" you can identify leading us to where we are today:

--Southern strategy in the late 70s; beginning of the modern "culture war" politics
--Gingrich and the dawn of Republican obstructionism in the 90s, simultaneous with the rise of Limbaugh et al
--The 2008 election and the rise of the Tea Party movement, which after Romney's defeat in 2012 would ultimate coalesce around Trump as MAGA
 
nycfan said:
Does Trump have PTSD?

“… Republican donors and Trump campaign officials are struggling to understand why Trump seems to be sabotaging his own candidacy. One theory, according to sources, is that Trump has been experiencing trauma from his near-death experience following the assassination attempt at the rally last month in Butler, Pennsylvania.

“He’s been watching that seven-second clip of how close he was to getting shot right in the head—over and over and over again,” the Republican close to the campaign said. “He may actually legit have PTSD.”

A campaign official confirmed that the shooting continues to weigh on Trump. “He’s been through a lot,” the official said. (The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment.)

… Another theory is that Trump can’t let go of the fact that Biden dropped out. “They cheated by swapping Biden,” Trump has told people, according to a person who recently spent time with the Republican presidential nominee.

The Trump campaign believed that Harris’s honeymoon would fade, but instead, the opposite has happened: Her momentum is surging. Trump’s advisers have implored him to launch policy attacks on Harris instead of using juvenile nicknames like Laffin Kamala and Kamabla. Longtime Trump confidant Roger Stone is among those who want Trump to change tactics. “I do think it’s counterproductive to call her stupid,” he told me.

Trump has rejected his team’s advice. According to the Republican close to the campaign, Trump tells his advisers: “I know what I’m doing.” …”

www.vanityfair.com

Trump Allies Fear He’s Sabotaging His Own Campaign

The former president can’t get over feeling “cheated” by Joe Biden’s exit from the race, says one source, while another speculates he might “have PTSD” following last month’s assassination attempt.
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Good lord. If Roger freaking Stone thinks calling people names is counterproductive, their polling must be absolutely abysmal.
 
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