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2024 Presidential Election | ELECTION DAY 2024

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gregh1 said:
No. Though i'm pretty sure a former occupant was registered Repub. It just makes it more remarkable that he can get so far despite having such an incompetent "circle".
It would a very different and scary world if Trump was just a little more calculating.
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Well you’re in luck, because whoever assumes the mantle as Republican POTUS nominee after Trump will be cast as “Trump, but more calculating!” The Dems already tested that out on DeSantis before the DeSantis campaign fell flat on its face.
 
lawtig02 said:
Trump, if you take him at his word, is just as “pro abortion” as Kamala. If California wants to allow abortion in the ninth month, Trump’s official position is that he’s fine with it. So Francis either thinks Trump is lying or he’s equivocating between them based on an immaterial distinction. Which is why I say it was tone deaf at best.
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I have no doubt whatsoever that in private Trump doesn't give a **** about abortion as an issue, and before getting into GOP politics he was likely pro-choice. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he had paid for at least one of his mistresses to have an abortion sometime in the past, like Mark Robinson did with his future wife. Quite literally the only reason he's now pro-life is because he's a Republican and he's no doubt been repeatedly told by his aides that he can't afford to antagonize the party's rabid pro-life base. Except that he's also got enough political sense to know that this is increasingly a losing issue for Republicans, and so he keeps verbally bobbing and weaving - trying to (falsely) convince enough independents that he's really "reasonable" on abortion while still keeping his base happy. It's not going to work, because most of his base simply won't accept anything other than a national abortion ban.
 
DurhamK said:
Does anyone actually realistically think Florida is in play? Feels similar to when the GOP felt like Virginia was in play a couple months ago.
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Eh, after the Biden debacle, VA might actually have been in play. I don't think he'd have won here, but it would have been way too close. Youngkin is very popular and we (like lots of places) have a ton of blood red rural counties. Florida doesn't seem reasonable, but it went to Obama twice and is 3-3-1 since '96 (I count 2000 as a tie).
 
Gmonet said:
Eh, after the Biden debacle, VA might actually have been in play. I don't think he'd have won here, but it would have been way too close. Youngkin is very popular and we (like lots of places) have a ton of blood red rural counties. Florida doesn't seem reasonable, but it went to Obama twice and is 3-3-1 since '96 (I count 2000 as a tie).
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I would agree, 8 weeks ago, I had a very real fear that the Commonweaith of Virginia might very well go for Trump. At that time, it was a case of a 3 way race, Trump, Biden or the couch . . . and the couch was coming in at #2.
 
BillyL said:
I would agree, 8 weeks ago, I had a very real fear that the Commonweaith of Virginia might very well go for Trump. At that time, it was a case of a 3 way race, Trump, Biden or the couch . . . and the couch was coming in at #2.
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I don’t know if Youngkin is all that popular . You saw what happened in the last election.
 
BillyL said:
I would agree, 8 weeks ago, I had a very real fear that the Commonweaith of Virginia might very well go for Trump. At that time, it was a case of a 3 way race, Trump, Biden or the couch . . . and the couch was coming in at #2.
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I think Florida will be closer this time than it was in 2020 - there does seem to be some backlash going on over DeSantis and his heavy-handed administration and groups like Moms for Liberty - but I still think in the end it will go for Trump and likely Rick Scott, although he probably won't win by a large margin either. Part of the problem in Florida is that the state Democratic Party is a joke and dumpster fire and has been for many years - in 2020 they spent millions to outsource their get-out-the-vote drive to an out-of-state organization, which not surprisingly fell flat. In 2020 they also ignored the frantic warnings from local Democratic pols in South Florida that Trump was making significant inroads into several immigrant communities there. Until the Democrats can build a strong statewide organization instead of the factionalized mess they have had for years they'll likely continue to struggle there. They really need a Stacey Abrams type to do there what she did in Georgia.
 
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