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JCTarheel82 said:
Hard pass on making a group of islands full of MAGAs an official US state.
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Whatever MAGAS live in the Virgin Islands are in the vast minority. The one delegate that the VI sends to DC is always a Democrat (with the exception of an independent who caucused with the Dems). They would deliver two Democratic senators and Democratic rep.
 
GoHeelsweeeehoooo said:
I know we aren't being totally serious but would California ever agree to being split into two states?
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I won't claim to be the greatest California expert in the world, but I think it could be doable.

SoCal and NorCal have considerable difference and it annoys a good number of folks in SoCal that the capital is so far north in Sacramento. And folks in NorCal often look down on SoCal cities/folks.

That said, there would be a lot of expenses to dividing the state into 2 and losses of certain privileges (e.g. the UC education system would have to be divvied up and each half of the state would lose access to either Berkeley or UCLA). And I think a lot of folks in California take pride in everything their state has to offer (but in a normal way and not a freakish Texas way).

My hunch is that it would be a hard sell, but that it wouldn't be impossible.
 
SnoopRob said:
I won't claim to be the greatest California expert in the world, but I think it could be doable.

SoCal and NorCal have considerable difference and it annoys a good number of folks in SoCal that the capital is so far north in Sacramento. And folks in NorCal often look down on SoCal cities/folks.

That said, there would be a lot of expenses to dividing the state into 2 and losses of certain privileges (e.g. the UC education system would have to be divvied up and each half of the state would lose access to either Berkeley or UCLA). And I think a lot of folks in California take pride in everything their state has to offer (but in a normal way and not a freakish Texas way).

My hunch is that it would be a hard sell, but that it wouldn't be impossible.
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The downside of this is that other MAGA states would eagerly vote to split in to 2. Best to just add new states, most obviously DC.
 
Duke Mu said:
Any scruples automatically make a candidate unqualified, especially in my former political party.
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I have always thought of this fella as a clown and have begrudged him for the Bama shill he has been. However I will gladly golf clap that answer.
 
Kingpin said:
The downside of this is that other MAGA states would eagerly vote to split in to 2. Best to just add new states, most obviously DC.
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Yes, because clearly northern Wyoming doesn’t have enough representation in the Senate.

But I get what you’re saying. Even though SoCal & NoCal separate would both be top 5 most populated states, it would be a matter of time before Pubs countered with the same.
 
California should just approve Proposition "Senate Representation Equality" which calls for adding another 65 Senate seats to match Wyoming.
 
Kingpin said:
The downside of this is that other MAGA states would eagerly vote to split in to 2. Best to just add new states, most obviously DC.
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And they would likely demand California be split into 4, with the Eastern sections being blood red.
 
altmin said:
And they would likely demand California be split into 4, with the Eastern sections being blood red.
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To demand and make something happen, they need power. The Red states force ish all the time ignoring the needs of blue cities and the majority. They can demand all they want but will lose.
 
Kingpin said:
To demand and make something happen, they need power. The Red states force ish all the time ignoring the needs of blue cities and the majority. They can demand all they want but will lose.
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New states have to be admitted into the union via votes of Congress as a Joint Resolution and signed off by a president. To cross the 60 vote Senate filibuster and be made official by a Republican president, compromises would have to be made.
 
altmin said:
New states have to be admitted into the union via votes of Congress as a Joint Resolution and signed off by a president. To cross the 60 vote Senate filibuster and be made official by a Republican president, compromises would have to be made.
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Yes, you are correct. This all is just a pipe dream. The only viable possibility might be DC as a state. Is the 60 Senate vote mandated for statehood or is that just the filibuster?
 
I do think that Puerto Rico will become a state eventually, but it will probably be sometime around the end of the 21st Century (like 60 or 70 years from now) before it happens - after the white population has shrunk enough and other demographic changes have occurred - for it to have a chance. But in our immediate future there's no way in hell that Republicans will allow anything to happen that might reduce their power in Congress or anywhere else.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I do think that Puerto Rico will become a state eventually, but it will probably be sometime around the end of the 21st Century (like 60 or 70 years from now) before it happens - after the white population has shrunk enough and other demographic changes have occurred - for it to have a chance. But in our immediate future there's no way in hell that Republicans will allow anything to happen that might reduce their power in Congress or anywhere else.
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My former student from PR told me to not assume PR would vote Dem. Many are catholic and socially conservative. And most of the intellectual and entrepreneurial minded have all left the island - so primarily what’s left behind are MAGA material.
 
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