2025 & 2026 Elections

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Molotov Mocktail said:
Trump says Chicago is next for military occupation. Followed by NY or LA or maybe even SF. Don Jr says they should take the tour to Portland.

This is just in the last few hours. I hope people with an audience start sounding the alarm that elections as we’ve known them aren’t going to take place next year. Dems were caught unprepared as the trump administration blitzed them destroying years and decades of work in just a few months.

I haven’t seen anything yet that looks like dems are preparing for the fight that coming. It’s coming though.
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There is no fight coming. This nation's experiment with Democracy will die with the same whimper that has heretofore been exerted.
 
We had a president suspend habeas corpus...and that president is often considered the greatest, most consequential president in our nation's history. The country will endure as will our government. The country won't go unscathed but suggesting the USA's "experiment with Democracy will die..." is just hyperbolic nonsense.
 
Molotov Mocktail said:
Trump says Chicago is next for military occupation. Followed by NY or LA or maybe even SF. Don Jr says they should take the tour to Portland.

This is just in the last few hours. I hope people with an audience start sounding the alarm that elections as we’ve known them aren’t going to take place next year. Dems were caught unprepared as the trump administration blitzed them destroying years and decades of work in just a few months.

I haven’t seen anything yet that looks like dems are preparing for the fight that coming. It’s coming though.
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I'm not sure what you expected any party to do in this situation. The GOP controls all branches of the Federal government. Biden and his administration (and by extension Harris and the Democratic Party) warned of this possibility as early as 2020. Trump encouraged mob violence against the Capital. He was part of a conspiracy to overturn the 202 election using fake electors. The American people voted for this government regardless. The Democratic Party wasn't unprepared - they were powerless to do anything to stop it. Their best bet now is to publicize all actions of this administration and hope the electorate votes as many out as possible in 2026 and elects a new regime entirely in 2028.
 
p5mmr9 said:
We had a president suspend habeas corpus...and that president is often considered the greatest, most consequential president in our nation's history. The country will endure as will our government. The country won't go unscathed but suggesting the USA's "experiment with Democracy will die..." is just hyperbolic nonsense.
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You are free to believe that. I am free to believe you are wrong.
 
Polemics and hyperbolic "beliefs" are one of the paths that brought us here. So, you are "free to believe that" - but you are contributing to the very thing you seem to fear with this nonsensical "belief."
 
p5mmr9 said:
Oh yeah. I'm definitely uninformed.
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Informed and paying attention can be mutually exclusive.

Seems sanguine, kindly, for someone to claim all will be ok when seven months into a fascist administration they have eliminated multiple vital functions of said government; rendered the Supreme Court a dictatorial rubber stamp; rolled out thousands of military personnel into city streets (with written plans for mass deployment); and are attempting to rig the midterms in plain site.

That doesn’t touch on the economic self immolation, mass deployment of cruelty, blatant ignoring of the constitution and law, and weaponization of every lever of the government. A country is a set of agreed upon rules bounds by lines in the sand, more or less. The gop has already thrown out those rules, and the institutions that uphold them. If/when the left rises again, they aren’t going to trust the same set of rules and institutions that allow maga fascism to happen. You might be informed, but you appear to either not connect dots or …
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Molotov Mocktail said:
Trump says Chicago is next for military occupation. Followed by NY or LA or maybe even SF. Don Jr says they should take the tour to Portland.

This is just in the last few hours. I hope people with an audience start sounding the alarm that elections as we’ve known them aren’t going to take place next year. Dems were caught unprepared as the trump administration blitzed them destroying years and decades of work in just a few months.

I haven’t seen anything yet that looks like dems are preparing for the fight that coming. It’s coming though.
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I have said this many times before, but continue to believe it's true: Dems and anyone else resisting this shit show of an administration are better served by focusing on the terrible and dangerous things the administration is currently doing, rather than making doomsaying predictions about what they are going to do in the future. Because when you say "there won't be real elections in 2026"then anything short of North Korean-style "elections" where the ruling party wins like 90% of the vote will make it feel like no big deal. The thing to be concerned about is Republican efforts to suppress votes through eliminating polling places, forms of voting, etc, not that the army is going to be standing there at your polling place making sure you vote R.

I'm also not sure it's really true that Dems were "caught unaware" by what the Trump admin is doing - the vast majority of it was described in the Project 2025 handbook. It may be true that Dems have been surprised in some instances about how much the Supreme Court has allowed the administration to get away with.
 
rodoheel said:
I have said this many times before, but continue to believe it's true: Dems and anyone else resisting this shit show of an administration are better served by focusing on the terrible and dangerous things the administration is currently doing, rather than making doomsaying predictions about what they are going to do in the future. Because when you say "there won't be real elections in 2026"then anything short of North Korean-style "elections" where the ruling party wins like 90% of the vote will make it feel like no big deal. The thing to be concerned about is Republican efforts to suppress votes through eliminating polling places, forms of voting, etc, not that the army is going to be standing there at your polling place making sure you vote R.

I'm also not sure it's really true that Dems were "caught unaware" by what the Trump admin is doing - the vast majority of it was described in the Project 2025 handbook. It may be true that Dems have been surprised in some instances about how much the Supreme Court has allowed the administration to get away with.
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I agree with your assessment but the key word is focus. Now and the future don't have to be mutually exclusive. Yes, most attention need be paid to the present depravations but there should also be warnings about the logical progression of horribles. It's a matter of proportion. Basically, "now" is the melody and "slippery slope" is adding commentary on the drums.

If you don't talk about the slippery slope at all, it might be hard for Americans to appreciate the present horribleness. As we've seen, too many Americans in 2024 were thinking, "what bad things would really happen if we go balls-out deporting people." They need to be told, "it could happen to you, and will happen to you." But you are right, the slippery slope loses its persuasive power if too casually invoked.

Problem: doom-saying gains attention. It's hard to keep people on message when there is money and fame waiting for those who deviate.
 
p5mmr9 said:
We had a president suspend habeas corpus...and that president is often considered the greatest, most consequential president in our nation's history. The country will endure as will our government. The country won't go unscathed but suggesting the USA's "experiment with Democracy will die..." is just hyperbolic nonsense.
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The road to fascism is paved with the bones of people who claimed we were overreacting.
 
p5mmr9 said:
We had a president suspend habeas corpus...and that president is often considered the greatest, most consequential president in our nation's history. The country will endure as will our government. The country won't go unscathed but suggesting the USA's "experiment with Democracy will die..." is just hyperbolic nonsense.
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