American Eagle Jeans Commercials

[UNCatTech]

Pretty good summation:

- Big cultural thing happens
— Random people on Twitter and TikTok whine
— Every lazy journalist writes stories about how people are OUTRAGED!!!
— Right-wing media blames "the left" and Democrats over a story that was wholly manufactured by the media based on random internet posts from people who likely aren't even political
— Repeat

Honestly, this could easily be the advertisers putting out shit to start a controversy. It seems to be working.

I would not have known about the commercials if not for reading it here as I don't watch any commercial television this time of the year.

 

[Bobfripp]

You know... maybe China did develop and release Covid onto the world so Trump would lose the election.

Thanks China!

 

[4thgenheel]

Sorry, sometimes my sarcasm meter needs calibration.

no apology necessary, it is often hard to detect sarcasm via written/typed word!

 

[UNCatTech]

It is not my fault you can't understand simple concepts. What I am talking about is precisely the exact opposite of a conspiracy theory.

Conspiracy: a relatively small number of people working in concert to pursue a definite and intended aim for nefarious reasons that they do not want to share

Cultural production like I'm describing: a large group of people pursuing their own individual, loosely defined "agendas" largely on their own for simple and obvious reasons that are not at all nefarious but result in the perpetuation of harmful ideas.

The fact that you can't distinguish something from its literal opposite should be signaling something to you. Well, it signals something to the rest of us.

Man, I know it's hard, I have to work at it every time I post, but if I can do it you can. You just have to ignore Zen.

It's one of the best things I've done on the board. And I don't mean ignore using the software, I still read his post, I just choose not to respond.

 

[TarSpiel]

Some people love to watch sexy young women under the guise of moralizing outrage.

 

[farce©]

Honestly, this could easily be the advertisers putting out shit to start a controversy. It seems to be working.

I would not have known about the commercials if not for reading it here as I don't watch any commercial television this time of the year.

I do, but I’ve never seen those commercials. I’m not in their demographic so I obviously don’t watch the shows where those commercials run.

 

[ZenMode]

Man, I know it's hard, I have to work at it every time I post, but if I can do it you can. You just have to ignore Zen.

It's one of the best things I've done on the board. And I don't mean ignore using the software, I still read his post, I just choose not to respond.

I hate to interrupt your outrage, but you responded to me 3 hours ago. Maybe I'm not that bad?

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Yesterday at 6:31 PM

The so-called Oscars "issue" is a separate issue in itself, but a separate conversation.

My issue isn't the known things like Amazon commercials. My issue is everything else you're talking about.

Yes, there's some "playing the role" type of thing with how you dress as an artist, musical or otherwise. For example, Beyonce grew up in Houston. Have you ever seen her in a cowboy hat until she released a very popular country song? I don't recall ever seeing it, but in 2024 she's suddenly sporting cowboy hats at awards shows. Do you think she had some hidden, ulterior motive? Was she...

• UNCatTech

 

[UNCatTech]

I guess I need to try harder.

 

[sringwal]

I hate to interrupt your outrage, but you responded to me 3 hours ago. Maybe I'm not that bad?

Off-Topic Post in thread 'American Eagle Jeans Commercials'

Yesterday at 6:31 PM

The so-called Oscars "issue" is a separate issue in itself, but a separate conversation.

My issue isn't the known things like Amazon commercials. My issue is everything else you're talking about.

Yes, there's some "playing the role" type of thing with how you dress as an artist, musical or otherwise. For example, Beyonce grew up in Houston. Have you ever seen her in a cowboy hat until she released a very popular country song? I don't recall ever seeing it, but in 2024 she's suddenly sporting cowboy hats at awards shows. Do you think she had some hidden, ulterior motive? Was she...

• UNCatTech

I think what is really frustrating is because there are times when I, when a lot of us, agree with some of your ideas. But man, there are some topics, like transgenderism, where we just want you to have a little more empathy. Like with transgederism. Imagine how hard their lives most have been, to feel what they feel, and have to give up what they have to give up.

All they want is a little love. And to be seen without being judged as an aberration. And for a short time, they were able to feel that, if only sometimes. And we took it away from them. You don’t have to understand, or even agree with their lifestyle. I don’t fully understand them. But it’s their only life and it how many of them feel complete. All you are doing is making their hard lives even harder. Just be kind.

 

[donbosco]

#DeepChatham trumper social media post.

 

[ZenMode]

I think what is really frustrating is because there are times when I, when a lot of us, agree with some of your ideas. But man, there are some topics, like transgenderism, where we just want you to have a little more empathy. Like with transgederism. Imagine how hard their lives most have been, to feel what they feel, and have to give up what they have to give up.

All they want is a little love. And to be seen without being judged as an aberration. And for a short time, they were able to feel that, if only sometimes. And we took it away from them. You don’t have to understand, or even agree with their lifestyle. I don’t fully understand them. But it’s their only life and it how many of them feel complete. All you are doing is making their hard lives even harder. Just be kind.

Well, I've got bad news...I can't make myself be more empathetic any more than you can make yourself be less empathetic.

For many years now, I've been of the opinion that there are two personality traits that are very influential in whether someone is liberal or conservative. One of them is risk tolerance and the other is empathy.

I believe empathy is among the worst ways to make a decision. When you empathize with someone, you are putting yourself in their place. You are feeling their feelings. Their hurt is hurting you and, as a result, you are making a decision based on emotion, not reason.

 

[4thgenheel]

Well, I've got bad news...I can't make myself be more empathetic any more than you can make yourself be less empathetic.

For many years now, I've been of the opinion that there are two personality traits that are very influential in whether someone is liberal or conservative. One of them is risk tolerance and the other is empathy.

I believe empathy is among the worst ways to make a decision. When you empathize with someone, you are putting yourself in their place. You are feeling their feelings. Their hurt is hurting you and, as a result, you are making a decision based on emotion, not reason.

"risk tolerance," lmao. conservatives tend to have a larger amygdala. constantly scared and seeing threats in everything, essentially.

as per usual with the right, the "snowflake" accusations were always an admission.

 

[ZenMode]

"risk tolerance," lmao. conservatives tend to have a larger amygdala. constantly scared and seeing threats in everything, essentially.

as per usual with the right, the "snowflake" accusations were always an admission.

I've never thought of risk tolerance and "snowflake" as being connected.

 

[4thgenheel]

I've never thought of risk tolerance and "snowflake" as being connected.

those were separate but somewhat related thoughts.

i think your "risk tolerance" framing here is putting lipstick on a pig to some degree. which is only natural since you are that kind of person and would rather see yourself as risk intolerant than someone who often feels scared and threatened. to be fair, some of the risks/threats you see are real. but some are not.

 

[CFordUNC]

Well, I've got bad news...I can't make myself be more empathetic any more than you can make yourself be less empathetic.

For many years now, I've been of the opinion that there are two personality traits that are very influential in whether someone is liberal or conservative. One of them is risk tolerance and the other is empathy.

I believe empathy is among the worst ways to make a decision. When you empathize with someone, you are putting yourself in their place. You are feeling their feelings. Their hurt is hurting you and, as a result, you are making a decision based on emotion, not reason.

I think that is an extremely un-nuanced and overly simplistic way of looking at it. There is a lot of research that shows that empathy is one of the most critical traits possessed by successful chief executives. In general CEOs with higher levels of empathy cultivate environments in which employees feel valued and respected, are given the freedom to take risks and think creatively without fear of judgement, and are able to be seen as a calming stabilizer in moments of crisis- all of which leads to higher engagement, increased job satisfaction/, and a greater likelihood of their staying with the organization long-term (and low turnover is one of the primary methods in which businesses can keep costs low and profits high). Empathetic CEOs tend to make more informed and responsible decisions because they can better anticipate the impact of changes on various constituencies within the company, and within the customer base. Certainly there can be associated downsides of empathetic leadership, such as a emotional over-investment that can lead to decision-making analysis paralysis. But overall, empathy is viewed as a leading characteristic among successful chief executive officers.

As to your other point about risk tolerance- I don't see that being a very conservative trait at all. Not even close, in fact. Conservatism inherently wants to maintain a hierarchal status quo in which as little change as possible is made, and any change is exceedingly slow and incremental. That seems to be risk-adverse, not risk-tolerant.

 

[rodoheel]

#DeepChatham trumper social media post.

Yeah "Tony Ray Smith" definitely sounds like he's from Chatham County, lol

 

[ZenMode]

those were separate but somewhat related thoughts.

i think your "risk tolerance" framing here is putting lipstick on a pig to some degree. which is only natural since you are that kind of person and would rather see yourself as risk intolerant than someone who often feels scared and threatened. to be fair, some of the risks/threats you see are real. but some are not.

I talking bigger picture. Liberals tend to want more government oversight, especially federal government oversight. They generally don't want to leave things up to chance or market-type forces to regulate. I think they tend analyze and tend to find the worst case scenarios, even if unlikely, and want to guardrails in place.

 

[rodoheel]

Well, I've got bad news...I can't make myself be more empathetic any more than you can make yourself be less empathetic.

For many years now, I've been of the opinion that there are two personality traits that are very influential in whether someone is liberal or conservative. One of them is risk tolerance and the other is empathy.

I believe empathy is among the worst ways to make a decision. When you empathize with someone, you are putting yourself in their place. You are feeling their feelings. Their hurt is hurting you and, as a result, you are making a decision based on emotion, not reason.

This suggests that "empathy" and "reason" are mutually exclusive and/or conflicting characteristics. I don't agree with that at all.

 

[4thgenheel]

I talking bigger picture. Liberals tend to want more government oversight, especially federal government oversight. They generally don't want to leave things up to chance or market-type forces to regulate. I think they tend analyze and tend to find the worst case scenarios, even if unlikely, and want to guardrails in place.

yeahhh, the science does not agree with your conclusions here:

Google Search

liberals wanting more government interference in various markets and industry is logical, not emotional - we've seen what happens with no guardrails: those with the most resources rig the games in their favor with an eye for nothing but their own profits and we get monopolies, price gouging, consumer abuse, environmental abuse, subprime mortgages sold off as mortgage backed securities, etc. etc. etc.

 

[4thgenheel]

I think that is an extremely un-nuanced and overly simplistic way of looking at it. There is a lot of research that shows that empathy is one of the most critical traits possessed by successful chief executives. In general CEOs with higher levels of empathy cultivate environments in which employees feel valued and respected, are given the freedom to take risks and think creatively without fear of judgement, and are able to be seen as a calming stabilizer in moments of crisis- all of which leads to higher engagement, increased job satisfaction/, and a greater likelihood of their staying with the organization long-term (and low turnover is one of the primary methods in which businesses can keep costs low and profits high). Empathetic CEOs tend to make more informed and responsible decisions because they can better anticipate the impact of changes on various constituencies within the company, and within the customer base. Certainly there can be associated downsides of empathetic leadership, such as a emotional over-investment that can lead to decision-making analysis paralysis. But overall, empathy is viewed as a leading characteristic among successful chief executive officers.

As to your other point about risk tolerance- I don't see that being a very conservative trait at all. Not even close, in fact. Conservatism inherently wants to maintain a hierarchal status quo in which as little change as possible is made, and any change is exceedingly slow and incremental. That seems to be risk-adverse, not risk-tolerant.

yeah, conservatives are definitely more risk intolerant. see: the larger amygdalas.