Anyone considering moving?

[UNCatTech]

I will say, I definitely would not/will not leave the United States because of politics. Not one single politician or one single person has that kind of power over me. But even before Trump, I’ve kind of always had a goal/dream of living abroad. I didn’t get a chance to travel abroad or study abroad growing up because we were poor, but I’ve always wanted to see the world. My company is planning to open offices in London, Cape Town, Rome, and Shanghai over the next 3-5 years or so, and have asked if I’d be interested in working abroad. I absolutely am.

Same here.

My company has offices all over the world, I just need to find a job so I can transfer.

 

[UNCatTech]

Yeah, it's been a thought, but my folks are coming to the age where they are going to need help, and while my sis is taking care of her fiancé's family in Raleigh, as well as my uncle, I'm probably going to stick around here to help my folks.

If full blown civil war breaks out though, all options are on the table.

I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for my mother moving in...

 

[ZenMode]

I will say, I definitely would not/will not leave the United States because of politics. Not one single politician or one single person has that kind of power over me. But even before Trump, I’ve kind of always had a goal/dream of living abroad. I didn’t get a chance to travel abroad or study abroad growing up because we were poor, but I’ve always wanted to see the world. My company is planning to open offices in London, Cape Town, Rome, and Shanghai over the next 3-5 years or so, and have asked if I’d be interested in working abroad. I absolutely am.

 

[UNCatTech]

I would love to move to Puerto Peñasco at some point in my life. I had a chance to buy a two-bedroom condo at Las Palomas resort in 2008, for under 150,000. I still kick myself for not pulling the trigger on that purchase. Now I'm basically waiting for the market to crash to have that opportunity again.

Will I move because of the election results or because we have a potted plants for a governor in Arizona? No. There are still far too many positives to living in Arizona, as long as it doesn't become the next California with all of the Californians moving here.

Arizona? Wasn't there a poster on IC that lived in Arizona and owned several Arby's?

 

[ZenMode]

Arizona? Wasn't there a poster on IC that lived in Arizona and owned several Arby's?

Pfffff...if I owned several Arby's, I'd buy a place in Puerto Peñasco now!

 

[Bigs23]

Where in Portugal? I’ve read a lot about how the Algarve is an amazing place to retire. Lots of English speakers too.

Haven’t decided yet. Going in March to check out some different areas.

 

[JCTarheel82]

Arizona? Wasn't there a poster on IC that lived in Arizona and owned several Arby's?

@WaynetheDrain lives in Arizona. I don't know if he has the meats though.

 

[evrheel]

Can't fight for change if you leave

After the next republican recession (which will be 3 in a row consecutively) Dems will be back

 

[BubbaOtis]

It's interesting to read some posters' litany of places where they didn't like residing.
As I quoted the last time we did this thread "No matter where you go, there you are."

Ultimately nearly all decide that they've got it too good here to justify leaving.

 

[Icky Mettle]

I am generally content where I am. I like spending time other places, but when it comes to having my home base, my current home base is where I feel comfort. I’ve got family and many friends here.

I love experiencing life in other countries, but after a while I miss the things I have access to at home. Those things are little things that I may take for granted, but are very much part of my daily life, and I notice when they’re missing. I could never imagine moving to another country. If I did, it would be Canada, where I would have access to many of the things I have access to in the US and I wouldn’t be too far away from family. And if I were somewhere like Toronto, I would be close to a good number of family members who live in Western NY and would also be close to our summer cottage in the Finger Lakes. But I really don’t want to live an cold climate.

I really don’t have any family or roots abroad. On both sides of my family, my ancestors arrived on this continent in the 17th Century. My mom’s side landed in what would become Connecticut, made their way to upstate NY and pretty much settled there for generations. My dad’s side first landed in Bermuda, then made there way to what is now northeastern NC and southeastern VA and settled in northeastern NC for generations.

My wife’s family arrived to the US much later. They were Jewish people living in Russia and fled to the US to escape persecution. They came in through Ellis Island around the turn of the 20th Century. Those who remained on the other side of the Atlantic moved from Russia to more western parts of Europe, but nearly all of them were killed in the Holocaust.

Needless to say, for both my wife and me, the US is very much our home and we’d be leaving a great deal behind if we moved overseas.

 

[Callatoroy]

Portland is already quite expensive; on mean, Seattle is >20% more so. If you have the upper middle class nest egg or sure fire $200k+ annual income, I agree that Seattle offers more. If you have stable middle income, an interest in access to urban neighborhoods, and interest in urban and nearby outdoors, the compact nature and cost of living in Portland is likely more broadly achievable.

ETA: IMO, the PNW "value" play is Olympia. It doesn't have the same immediately accessible outdoors as most of Seattle and Portland, though still quite good; its day trip potential is excellent; COL is notably lower; and you're still relatively easy access to SeaTac and Seattle medical facilities. That said, you need a fairly reliable job or ability to work from home, as it's a limited economy (small pop).

Eugene?

 

[wmheel1287]

Moving to an entirely new country would be cool, if you speak the language and can afford the costs… which can be prohibitive. And what about your job? Can you relocate and still keep your job?

I’ve lived abroad before and it was way cool. But now… logistical barriers. But if push came to shove I’d find a way. My wife may be already there and setting up shop. She’s fluent in Spanish and I’m conversational German, so we have that going…

I teach online. My day classes which are 9am to 2pm here would be 3pm to 8pm there. I'd have to give up night classes though.

 

[HeelYeah2012]

I would have a hard time moving even a couple states away. Love North Carolina too much!!

 

[Rock]

I teach online. My day classes which are 9am to 2pm here would be 3pm to 8pm there. I'd have to give up night classes though.

What do you teach if you don't mind me asking or where/how? As someone with a master's in teaching that would love to work remote... just curious.

 

[wmheel1287]

What do you teach if you don't mind me asking or where/how? As someone with a master's in teaching that would love to work remote... just curious.

I teach real estate licensing and continuing education.

 

[Centerpiece]

I teach online. My day classes which are 9am to 2pm here would be 3pm to 8pm there. I'd have to give up night classes though.

Having jobs in which one can work remotely is the key to living abroad. Well, one of the keys…

 

[uncjhodges]

Kids tend to be remarkably malleable.

Definitely, she’s just a social being and i would feel bad about it just dj quick to a large move

Portland is already quite expensive; on mean, Seattle is >20% more so. If you have the upper middle class nest egg or sure fire $200k+ annual income, I agree that Seattle offers more. If you have stable middle income, an interest in access to urban neighborhoods, and interest in urban and nearby outdoors, the compact nature and cost of living in Portland is likely more broadly achievable.

ETA: IMO, the PNW "value" play is Olympia. It doesn't have the same immediately accessible outdoors as most of Seattle and Portland, though still quite good; its day trip potential is excellent; COL is notably lower; and you're still relatively easy access to SeaTac and Seattle medical facilities. That said, you need a fairly reliable job or ability to work from home, as it's a limited economy (small pop).

I don’t know much about Olympia, but if you’re looking for a smaller town that has the ethos of the PNW and cheaper than seattle, I’d be looking at Bellingham.
Near the Canadian border, less than an hour from Vancouver, 1.5 hours from Seattle, has a small airport if i recall correctly, 30 min from Mt Baker, and on the water. It’s a college town too. Great outdoor opportunities. Tons of good breweries (including structures which i think is a top 3-5 brewery in the state) and coffee spots too.

 

[Croatoan]

Another option:

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It won’t be cheap to dodge the real world, though. Single occupancy options start at $255,999, while double occupancy rates begin at $319,998.”

 

[336Heel]

My wife was reading an add for Portugal just a moment ago.

I actually did some cursory reading about what Americans needed to do to move to Portugal. If I were gonna move abroad I think that's where I'd go.

 

[uncjhodges]

I agree Bellingham is a step up from Olympia from a quaintness and immediate beauty standpoint, though it's much more difficult to access SeaTac (Bellingham airport is functional, though limited), COL is quite a bit higher, and city amenities are effectively a day trip (1.5-2hrs to Seattle or border crossings, which I think will get harder) vs Olympia (30min-1hr). I've researched moving to both, and the primary reason I landed on Olympia is because it retains the PNW-ness while possessing a broader financial entry point and access.

I think it's easy to simply pick the most visually attractive and amenity rich spot and say "it's so much better than X", without acknowledging "so much better" is virtually always more expensive, and often much. I'd love to live in a tucked in spot on the edges of Ballard or Edmonds but that just ain't happenin' with my financial goals.

My read is the mean zzl poster's financial status might be described as comfortable to very comfortable. This board undoubtedly has considerable overrepresentation of wealthy folks, as well. I'm trying to impart what I know mostly to an audience that falls beneath the my perception of said statuses.

I agree Bellingham is a step up from Olympia from a quaintness and immediate beauty standpoint, though it's much more difficult to access SeaTac (Bellingham airport is functional, though limited), COL is quite a bit higher, and city amenities are effectively a day trip (1.5-2hrs to Seattle or border crossings, which I think will get harder) vs Olympia (30min-1hr). I've researched moving to both, and the primary reason I landed on Olympia is because it retains the PNW-ness while possessing a broader financial entry point and access.

I think it's easy to simply pick the most visually attractive and amenity rich spot and say "it's so much better than X", without acknowledging "so much better" is virtually always more expensive, and often much. I'd love to live in a tucked in spot on the edges of Ballard or Edmonds but that just ain't happenin' with my financial goals.

My read is the mean zzl poster's financial status might be described as comfortable to very comfortable. This board undoubtedly has considerable overrepresentation of wealthy folks, as well. I'm trying to impart what I know mostly to an audience that falls beneath the my perception of said statuses.

Well obviously, But I assumed if someone was seriously considering to move to the pnw at this pt and on this message board, they would be aware of the cost of living and their current situation. Not trying to confuse or belittle anyone.
We actually lived near the Ballard locks, on the magnolia side and were able to walk to downtown ballard anytime- it was great