Approval/Disapproval Polls

[aGDevil2k]

Yeah I imagine with a decent younger candidate we would see them probably about +20. Obama is an outlier. But so is the machismo of Trump in a time when housing costs are absolutely CRUSHING young people

 

[Calheel]

Yeah I imagine with a decent younger candidate we would see them probably about +20. Obama is an outlier. But so is the machismo of Trump in a time when housing costs are absolutely CRUSHING young people

But housing costs aren't crushing 18-21 year olds, and only sort of 22-29 year olds. They are hurting 30-44 year olds the most of all, and those people hardly budged from 2020.

 

[aGDevil2k]

But housing costs aren't crushing 18-21 year olds, and only sort of 22-29 year olds. They are hurting 30-44 year olds the most of all, and those people hardly budged from 2020.

They know they have a brutal entry into the market ahead. Housing and rent.

I mean I bought my first house at 23. Couldn't do that these days.

 

[nycfan]

 

[Kingpin]

But that wouldn't explain the recent emergence. To my knowledge, there hasn't been a split like this in a while. Which could be a point in your favor. It could also suggest that something about this specific moment (as others mentioned, pandemic and algorithm) is creating this effect.

What is clear, I think, is that Kamala did worse among young voters than recent Dem candidates. So something happened in those four years. Either the new entrants to the cohort are different, or the cohort changed its mind.

One thing I sometimes worry about is, ironically, what JD Vance worries about: birth rates. Not in the same way, of course. I worry that the fundamentalists will outbreed the rationalists. I think that was one significant factor in the right-wing radicalization of Israel.

Religious folk have always been more conservative than secularists; it balanced out when the kids of religious people would go to school and learn what their parents didn't tell them. Liberals had two kids and both were likely liberal; conservatives would have 7 but three would become liberal. Well, that was before Hillsdale college and home-schooling with Prager U materials and states that fund religious indoctrination centers, I'm sorry, charter schools. If we're only going to pick off 1 of those 7, we're going to need more kids. Unfortunately, liberals are so much more likely to be childless or have small families.

I give a couple of my friends shit about this sometime. I say, "I've done my part for the cause -- I'm sending three liberals out into the world. What about you?"

This is real concern. Among my cohort, friends and colleagues (well educated successful liberals) none of our married kids plan to have children. While I know of conservative evangelicals (my own siblings and siblings of my friends) that have multiple kids who have their own kids (grandkids) already. It’s very concerning.

 

[JCTarheel82]

This is real concern. Among my cohort, friends and colleagues (well educated successful liberals) none of our married kids plan to have children. While I know of conservative evangelicals (my own siblings and siblings of my friends) that have multiple kids who have their own kids (grandkids) already. It’s very concerning.

This is literally the beginning of the movie Idiocracy.

 

[nycfan]

 

[aGDevil2k]

This is real concern. Among my cohort, friends and colleagues (well educated successful liberals) none of our married kids plan to have children. While I know of conservative evangelicals (my own siblings and siblings of my friends) that have multiple kids who have their own kids (grandkids) already. It’s very concerning.

To be honest, the explosion in growth of Latino/Hispanic populations across the USA is going to be the dominating factor that makes the liberal/conservative white discrepancy much less meaningful.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Looking at the specific questions, I wonder how many of these critics are not simply Trumpers but Democrats who are frustrated and angry at their own party right now. My guess is that it's a high percentage. There have been other polls showing that high numbers of Democrats are currently frustrated with the party leadership. And lol at 55% of the poll respondents saying that Trump isn't racist. That's truly rich, and appallingly ignorant.

 

[nycfan]

 

[heelinhell]

This is literally the beginning of the movie Idiocracy.

One of my favorite movies in which my perspective has evolved ( devolved ? ) over time

When I first watched it in 2006 , I liked it and considered it a silly parody but kinda captured GWB " Is our children learning " and the inanity of the day

Then I watched again once Trump took office in 2017 and considered it a point on parody of the state of America at the time

And then I watched it again a couple of months ago and thought this is no longer a parody ; it's a documentary that hits way too close to the bone