Approval/Disapproval Polls

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Healing said:
I look at shit like this and can’t help but think “wtf did you think was going to happen with this motherfucker as president, and his Nazi handlers pulling the strings?”

Trump made historic gains with Hispanics, all the while his blatant racism and racist policies were out in the fucking open. Jfc. I guess they’re at least bailing, thus, demonstrating reason and pragmatism. All the while, over there in Jasper, meemaw, Uncle Ricky, and Aunt Stephanie see the factory close, their health insurance revoked, and the local hospital go bankrupt and are all “but is he fucking up dem mezicans? Right on!”
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I’ll give the marginally educated voters who supported Trump a pass. Calla and Ram should have known better, and they still managed to shit the bed.
 
an0maly said:
One of the things that polling of this variety obscures is the inherent discontinuity between what Americans want and the tribalism lanes they are guided into by money in politics, that being profoundly related to disinformation in the uptake of various media. Then there is the larger chasm between what they want and what politicians work for. Many times I have pointed to polling on issues rather than parties, to show something more valuable to us, but let's engage in a thought experiment.

Say any of you listed the top broad scope policy priorities over the last couple of decades for elected Democrats and elected Republicans. Pick the top ten for both.

I would say near the top for actual policy pursuits for Republicans would be two items: tax cuts for the wealthy (though Republicans don't accurately frame it in that way), and increasing corporate power and reducing controls on this, regardless of negative impacts on average citizens (though Republicans don't frame it that way).

I would say near the top for actual policy pursuits for Democrats would be two items: Healthcare for as many citizens as possible, and protecting average citizens from harms of various kinds (including indirect things like care for the environment, etc.).

Now then... Go ahead and list your own ten for each party, and not what they say, but what elected politicians have actively pursued in policies. You can include my two for each, or come up with an entirely different ten policy pursuits.

Now, what would be the polling results of the American people on those items? This is the actual problem, that party ID polling is blind to, in the gap between what Americans want, what elected politicians do, and what Americans end up voting for.
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I like this and don't want your thought process to go unnoticed. I agree with your top two for each party. That said, I don't have the time or energy to flesh out the rest of the top 10 for either. I think your top 2 could be expounded upon to reach the 10 items.

As noted previously, the problem with "polling" is multifaceted and leads to basically any petty conclusion the pollsters wish to garner.
The Presidential polls the past 3 cycles have been a load of crap, to be sure.

Americans are simple folk. Not very bright on average. The sheep can be led over the cliff easily, which is what is happening now - and what happened in Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany in the 1930's.

The polls only exacerbate the problem. They don't help in any capacity of which I can fathom.

As a musician, I equate it to: "The Jazz musician can play 1000 chords to an audience of 3, and the Rock musician can play 3 chords to an audience of 1000".

Dems are the Jazzers... the Pubs are the Rockers. Playing to their base.
 
Carolina Fever said:
Too late dumbasses.
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Indeed. And absolutely nobody who has opposed Trump for the past decade is surprised by anything that he's done in his second term. Hell, he announced much of it in the campaign. And now we keep getting more and more articles with more and more Trump voters wailing "I didn't vote for this. I didn't think he would govern like this." Well, yeah, you actually did vote for this when you voted for Trump (and what makes it even more inexcusable is that many of these people voted for him two or even all three times). Suckers, plain and simple.
 
CFordUNC said:


If Republicans are cratering this badly with Latinos, the gerrymandering fuckery they’re trying to undertake in Texas could backfire spectacularly on them.
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This isn't the first time this has happened with Latino voters. In 2004 Dubya made major gains among Latinos, increasing his share from 33% in 2000 to 44% in 2004. But in 2008, 2012, and 2016 they voted heavily Democratic again. So this has happened before.
 
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