Approval/Disapproval Polls

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I would have thought the culling of the herd, especially the strand of those who NEED to get out of the gene pool, would be looked on more favorably than just 9%
 
superrific said:
You listen(ed) to Black Flag?
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More accurately I hung out with people who listened to Black Flag. I love a lot of punk but guess I am more of a mainstream punk rock type — Ramones, Dead Kennedys, The Clash, social Distortion, Siouxsie & the Banshees. Really like Green Day but feels heretical to call them punk. Same for the Police. I went to see Repo Man in the theater when it finally made it to our town several years after release because a friend was so into the music he swore would be worth it. The Repo Man theme by Iggy Pop is still an all time favorite — a regular watch on YouTube. Believe Black Flag is on that soundtrack.

Henry Rollins is an interesting dude though. Or was when I paid attention in 80s and 90s.
 
nycfan said:
More accurately I hung out with people who listened to Black Flag. I love a lot of punk but guess I am more of a mainstream punk rock type — Ramones, Dead Kennedys, The Clash, social Distortion, Siouxsie & the Banshees. Really like Green Day but feels heretical to call them punk. Same for the Police. I went to see Repo Man in the theater when it finally made it to our town several years after release because a friend was so into the music he swore would be worth it. The Repo Man theme by Iggy Pop is still an all time favorite — a regular watch on YouTube. Believe Black Flag is on that soundtrack.

Henry Rollins is an interesting dude though. Or was when I paid attention in 80s and 90s.
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Interesting. I used to joke around that I was the only corporate law professor around with an active interest in death metal (statistically that's improbable but it true enough for cocktail party banter). Probably not too many punk rockers in the project finance world either, though it appears you weren't a hard core punk.
I think Green Day is a litmus test. I'll take your contention and extend it: it's very difficult to like Green Day and be a true punk rocker. They are basically the Ramones if you swap heroin and speed for prozac. Which is not a swap a true punkrocker would ever make. Iggy Pop was a true punk rocker but I think I'm too young. By the time I heard him, he had been overtaken in the vigorous Punk/HC expansion of 1981-1984

That said, I'm not sure I'd call DK "mainstream." They were pretty heavy and refused to sell out.
 
superrific said:
Interesting. I used to joke around that I was the only corporate law professor around with an active interest in death metal (statistically that's improbable but it true enough for cocktail party banter). Probably not too many punk rockers in the project finance world either, though it appears you weren't a hard core punk.
I think Green Day is a litmus test. I'll take your contention and extend it: it's very difficult to like Green Day and be a true punk rocker. They are basically the Ramones if you swap heroin and speed for prozac. Which is not a swap a true punkrocker would ever make. Iggy Pop was a true punk rocker but I think I'm too young. By the time I heard him, he had been overtaken in the vigorous Punk/HC expansion of 1981-1984

That said, I'm not sure I'd call DK "mainstream." They were pretty heavy and refused to sell out.
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Surely you like The Stooges.
 
superrific said:
Not really. I wanna be your dog is fine, but overall they are tame for me. I didn't hear them until after I was banging out to Metallica and Morbid Angel.
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Do you listen to contemporary death metal or just old stuff? I've become quite fond of Cave Sermon, an Australian one-man death metal band. And, of course, Blood Incantation. Granted, my metal tastes tend to veer towards the more avant-garde--the two aforementioned bands, Sumac, The Body, etc.
 
breepf said:
Do you listen to contemporary death metal or just old stuff? I've become quite fond of Cave Sermon, an Australian one-man death metal band. And, of course, Blood Incantation. Granted, my metal tastes tend to veer towards the more avant-garde--the two aforementioned bands, Sumac, The Body, etc.
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Mostly old stuff. Actually, I don't listen to death metal too much these days. My second wife (i.e. current one) likes industrial metal like Godflesh and even some riffy thrashy stuff but death metal vox are a bridge too far.

I also tend to like the more avant-garde groups. Of course, what was avant-garde back then can be pretty standard now. I was into Meshuggah in 2004; never thought they would get popular. Amorphis was avant-garde in the early 90s, before everyone was copying them.
 
superrific said:
Mostly old stuff. Actually, I don't listen to death metal too much these days. My second wife (i.e. current one) likes industrial metal like Godflesh and even some riffy thrashy stuff but death metal vox are a bridge too far.

I also tend to like the more avant-garde groups. Of course, what was avant-garde back then can be pretty standard now. I was into Meshuggah in 2004; never thought they would get popular. Amorphis was avant-garde in the early 90s, before everyone was copying them.
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Godflesh actually reunited to release a pretty good album a year or two ago. In the interim, JK Broadrick was releasing very good heavy shoegaze records as Jesu.

Technical death metal has never really been my thing, the more experimental bands excepted. I came of age in the 90s hardcore scene, so I gravitated towards post-metal and doom metal. I can more easily listen to middle-of-the-road bands in those subgenres.

Last year, Sumac put out The Healer, an astonishing avant-garde metal album—I think of it as free metal, really. It embraces the space of 70s Miles Davis with lots of Caspar Brotzmann Massaker thrown in. All in all, I consider frontman Aaron Turner the most innovative metal musician of the last 25 years.

ETA: I cannot in good conscience endorse any slander against Funhouse-era Stooges.
 
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Unpossible! According to Silence and some other board Trumpers voters overwhelmingly approve of Trump's immigration policy and the Democrats are being destroyed on this issue. And this is a Fox News poll, for pete's sake. Looks like Trump 2.0 is, at a minimum, turning out to be no more popular than Trump 1.0.
 
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