As a 76 YO white Christian

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TarSpiel said:
He's definitely one of the good ones.

I'm trying to get a context for you without asking a question that would be too revealing, but were you around Saunders Hall in the years 2001-2007?

And yea, Shanny is a jewel of a person. I love him.
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Yes, but I was not a student then. I was on loan from DOD in 2003, auditing what they thought would be helpful.
 
TarSpiel said:
With Carl Ernst?

Also, do you know me by name?
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I spent more time in Hamilton. I was required to take classes mostly around Anglo German antagonism, so Jaraush and Weinberg. I did the philosophy and religion because the DOD at the time had a big push around what they deemed, MCA, or military cultural awareness.

I do not know you and it's best we keep it that way.
 
Batt Boy said:
I spent more time in Hamilton. I was required to take classes mostly around Anglo German antagonism, so Jaraush and Weinberg. I did the philosophy and religion because the DOD at the time had a big push around what they deemed, MCA, or military cultural awareness.

I do not know you and it's best we keep it that way.
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Lol...I wasn't trying to set up a meeting

Well, it's good you were able to do some stuff with shanny...like I said, great guy
 
4heels4evr said:
how can I justify the evangelical Christians voting for president who a judge has stated is guilty of Rape, tried to overthrow our constitutional government, and all the other stuff he has done and said about groups of people. How could a Gracious God allow this to happen with all the love of the Christian Right? HOW?
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Why do you feel the need to justify how other Christians or anyone else vote?
If you feel they made a mistake then pray for them.
Or even better, don't judge them.
 
Enigma94 said:
The idea that someone could actually believe that Trump is the best person to advance Christianity is baffling to me. He wants to cut taxes for the richest people in the country and cut services for the most needy. The way he has led his life is diametrically opposed to the teachings of Christ. He never goes to church and recently told an interviewer he has never asked Jesus for forgiveness, which is pretty much the most important part of being a Christian. I guess it's actually on brand for the MAGA crew to think that putting up a few signs in public places would make up for all of the above, but it's just another reason why I don't understand these people.
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Convincing someone that Trump is Christianity’s avatar is a good way to convince them to not be a Christian. I don’t think the numbers on religiously unaffiliated are going to remain plateaued.
 
BubbaOtis said:
Why do you feel the need to justify how other Christians or anyone else vote?
If you feel they made a mistake then pray for them.
Or even better, don't judge them.
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yep, my worst issue as a Christian is judging the evangelical right for judging the gays, trans, lesbos and all the poors illegal aliens blacks hispanics other scum you judge daily...
thx for playing
 
Bart Ehrman's name has come up several times in threads here. There's a nice one page writeup in the latest Carolina Alumni Review about his online blog having raised over $3 million which he contributed to humanitarian charities. Good for him!
 
BubbaOtis said:
Bart Ehrman's name has come up several times in threads here. There's a nice one page writeup in the latest Carolina Alumni Review about his online blog having raised over $3 million which he contributed to humanitarian charities. Good for him!
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His new book is going to be on how the teachings of Jesus laid the foundations for western altruism, charity, and morality.
 
BubbaOtis said:
Why do you feel the need to justify how other Christians or anyone else vote?
If you feel they made a mistake then pray for them.
Or even better, don't judge them.
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I was at a flea market a few weeks ago. Someone had a praying station set up with a sign that read: "If you voted for Kamala Harris you can pray for forgiveness here".

Then yesterday I read a person's t-shirt that said "Jesus won in 2024".

It's not a matter of judging the individual, like many here, I don't know them personally, so I cannot judge them. But all things considered, at this point in time, it's easy to judge the decision to vote for one of the absolute worst humans on the planet and claim that it is God's will.

Sort of reminds me of when I was involved in church. I always found it funny that people prayed and God always seemed to answer them with what they wanted to hear. :)
 
finesse said:
Christianity, speed, tobacco and alcohol were mine. All the others were merely pastimes and not habits.
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You know, I was lucky that tobacco just didn't agree with me. Though I tried, I never smoked, dipped, or chewed. Just couldn't do it.

I was a mediocre Christian, but the speed and alcohol...

I really went to church hoping to make friends and find people to talk to. Never really worked out. I remember so many conversations that ended in "have you prayed about it?". I wish I would had the wit to have responded to that with: "Yes, and God told me to ask you." But I was never quick witted.
 
I averaged 2+ packs a day for 25 years and quit cold turkey. That was over 30 years ago. If I hadn't, I'd have almost certainly died from the throat cancer. Instead, it just made me stop drinking.
 
UNCatTech said:
I was at a flea market a few weeks ago. Someone had a praying station set up with a sign that read: "If you voted for Kamala Harris you can pray for forgiveness here".

Then yesterday I read a person's t-shirt that said "Jesus won in 2024".

It's not a matter of judging the individual, like many here, I don't know them personally, so I cannot judge them. But all things considered, at this point in time, it's easy to judge the decision to vote for one of the absolute worst humans on the planet and claim that it is God's will.

Sort of reminds me of when I was involved in church. I always found it funny that people prayed and God always seemed to answer them with what they wanted to hear. :)
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Having grown up in a Southern Baptist Church, I've just never been able to get beyond the blatant hypocrisy and double standards that I saw all the time from adults and teen peers, and in my opinion it's only gotten worse since then. And I actually wouldn't care so much if these people didn't go out and vote to impose their "values" and "beliefs" onto everyone else while remaining hypocrites themselves - the numbers of Baptist preachers and other church ministers, wives of ministers, and others who have been caught doing terrible things that they preach against is seemingly endless. There was an article just today on the WXII website in Winston about an older preacher and his wife who have both been arrested for sexual abuse of minors, and it went on for years, all while the preacher no doubt gave pious sermons on practicing abstinence before marriage and women submitting themselves to men and so on. It's even more blatant than it used to be, and as I've gotten older I've grown much less tolerant of it than I used to be.
 
finesse said:
I averaged 2+ packs a day for 25 years and quit cold turkey. That was over 30 years ago. If I hadn't, I'd have almost certainly died from the throat cancer. Instead, it just made me stop drinking.
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Good for you
 
finesse said:
I averaged 2+ packs a day for 25 years and quit cold turkey. That was over 30 years ago. If I hadn't, I'd have almost certainly died from the throat cancer. Instead, it just made me stop drinking.
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I bet you were a mean sumbitch for about the first month there quitting 2 packs a day cold turkey. I had essentially quit other than nights out with the guys but the damn Juuls lured me back. Way harder to kick nicotine than Christianity for sure.
 
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