At least 15 killed in New Orleans attack

[ZZLPHeels]

It’s clear. The government planted the photo on the truck to make us think it was Isis.

Oh yeah, crystal clear. I just wanted to see him say it.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Extreme fringe Islam terrorists. It’s pretty clear that it’s them. Never said it was everyone but there’s a fraction of the religion that believes they have the right and not only that - God has commanded them to kill others.

Yup. Important to note that it is possible to talk about (and condemn) Jihadism and Islamic terrorism while acknowledging that the overwhelming majority of Muslims are peaceful people who should not be lumped in with their fanatics. I'm a white person and I don't take offense when people condemn white supremacists because fuck white supremacists.

 

[StrangePackage]

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/new-orleans-mass-casualty-bourbon-street-01-01-25-hnk?utm_medium=social&utm_source=blueskyCNN&utm_content=2025-01-01T22%3A57%3A36

So a garden variety domestic abuser turned spree killer, and not actually ISIS.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

So a garden variety domestic abuser turned spree killer, and not actually ISIS.

Except for the fact that he was very open about joining ISIS and acting on their behalf.

 

[StoneColdTarHeel]

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/new-orleans-mass-casualty-bourbon-street-01-01-25-hnk?utm_medium=social&utm_source=blueskyCNN&utm_content=2025-01-01T22%3A57%3A36

Sounds like someone that was mentally ill. I doubt he was ever formally a member of ISIS.

 

[Icky Mettle]

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/new-orleans-mass-casualty-bourbon-street-01-01-25-hnk?utm_medium=social&utm_source=blueskyCNN&utm_content=2025-01-01T22%3A57%3A36

If this is the case, it sounds like it was more the result of a descent into madness than a politically motivated act of violence.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Sounds like someone that was mentally ill. I doubt he was ever formally a member of ISIS.

Do you think ISIS gives you a membership card like Sam's Club?

 

[ZZLPHeels]

If this is the case, it sounds like it was more the result of a descent into madness than a politically motivated act of violence.

Just like Dylan Roof, right?

 

[StrangePackage]

Except for the fact that he was very open about joining ISIS and acting on their behalf.

Except for the fact that there's not anything to connect him to ISIS, other than his statements.

John Hinkley didn't really impress Jodi Foster.

 

[StoneColdTarHeel]

Do you think ISIS gives you a membership card like Sam's Club?

Do you think someone just says they are a member of ISIS and they're magically in ISIS?

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Except for the fact that there's not anything to connect him to ISIS, other than his statements.

John Hinkley didn't really impress Jodi Foster.

Do you understand the concept of a lone wolf terrorist? That's a major part of ISIS's game plan....to inspire people to commit acts of terrorism on its behalf.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

Do you think someone just says they are a member of ISIS and they're magically in ISIS?

Yeah, I guess the FBI shouldn't investigate anyone who pledges allegiance to a terrorist group until they get their official membership card in the mail.

 

[theel4life]

Except for the fact that he was very open about joining ISIS and acting on their behalf.

But he clearly used that as an excuse for his pathetic life unfolding.

 

[theel4life]

Do you think ISIS gives you a membership card like Sam's Club?

Trumpers probably do.

 

[ZZLPHeels]

But he clearly used that as an excuse for his pathetic life unfolding.

Terrorist groups often exploit vulnerable people.

 

[StoneColdTarHeel]

Yeah, I guess the FBI shouldn't investigate anyone who pledges allegiance to a terrorist group until they get their official membership card in the mail.

I didn't say anything about not investigating it. I said just because he said he joined ISIS doesn't mean he was an actual member of ISIS like you said.

 

[Icky Mettle]

Just like Dylan Roof, right?

No. They seem nothing alike.

This guy seemed to shift from being frustrated about his divorce and wanting to kill his family to having some dream about joining ISIS and deciding to kill people randomly on Bourbon Street.

Of course, I’m just basing that on the little bit that’s come out thus far.

 

[StoneColdTarHeel]

Do you understand the concept of a lone wolf terrorist? That's a major part of ISIS's game plan....to inspire people to commit acts of terrorism on its behalf.

Maybe he was inspired by them but that still doesn't mean he was really a member of ISIS. Sounds like other things were going on with his life that motivated him, too.

 

[HintonJamesHeel]

Fuck you bro. I know lots of good Muslim people.

Agreed. What does that have to do with what I said?

 

[ZZLPHeels]

I didn't say anything about not investigating it. I said just because he said he joined ISIS doesn't mean he was an actual member of ISIS like you said.

Once again, a major part of ISIS's strategy is to inspire people to commit acts of violence on their behalf. You don't need to be inducted into the club in order to be a terrorist. That's why they literally told people to drive into crowds, or attack people with machetes, and why they publish information about how to make explosives, etc.

There seems to be a haste by some to dismiss ISIS as a factor in this terrorist attack because this guy was mentally ill.