Aviation Crashes and other FAA News

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BlueSteel said:
Noted. Still, I can assure you that jets aren’t just regularly falling out of the sky matter-of-factly.
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You are correct that the vast majority of the plane fatalities are prop planes, not jets. But I don't think the engine type is what made it newsworthy.
 
Not to add to the conspiracies, however there is a rather questionable track record around this Med Jet / Jet Rescue company. Is it common for drug smugglers to steal tail numbers? Or might that company be lending out its tail numbers?

Really does have the whiff of some kind of front organization or at the very least a high level trafficking asset (in addition to being an air ambulance). I mean what is the logic in flying Mexican patients from Tijuana to Philadelphia for treatment? Would it really be so hard for them to find somewhere in California or Arizona?

This company just doesn't seem right to me.

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AlbionAmerican said:
Not to add to the conspiracies, however there is a rather questionable track record around this Med Jet / Jet Rescue company. Is it common for drug smugglers to steal tail numbers? Or might that company be lending out its tail numbers?

Really does have the whiff of some kind of front organization or at the very least a high level trafficking asset (in addition to being an air ambulance). I mean what is the logic in flying Mexican patients from Tijuana to Philadelphia for treatment? Would it really be so hard for them to find somewhere in California or Arizona?

This company just doesn't seem right to me.

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Philadelphia has one of the top children's hospital in the world, with some very unique specialties. My niece flew from SoCal to Philadelphia with her two-week old infant to repair a unique pancreas issue.
 
Calheel said:
If I had the time and inclination, I could google a dozen similar events that you have never heard of. Planes crash all the time, and some time they crash in heavily populated areas and you have never heard about it.

Edit - next time a plane crashes in an urban area in SoCal, I’ll try to remember to bump this thread and point out that I was right.
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So you're going to post the NEWS articles written about the UNEWSWORTHY plane crashes? Interesting.
 
dukeman92 said:
So you're going to post the NEWS articles written about the UNEWSWORTHY plane crashes? Interesting.
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I am going to post the local news story about a crash YOU never heard of because 6-person plane crashes usually aren't a national news story.

Go read up on all the 4+ fatality crashes listed in the link above. Tell me how many you knew about before you read the link.

Edit -- the only slight concession I'll make to your side on this point is the presence of the video. The news loves good, dramatic video -- and not all plane crashes have such dramatic video. So, it is possible this still would have been a national story simply because of the video -- albeit not as big a story as it has become.
 
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Can't find any video of a leer jet crash on google nearly as dramatic as this one. Sure prop planes crash 'all the time' but don't create massive fireball explosions in major population centers caught on multiple cameras. Other than Payne Stewart this is pretty much a singular news event IMO
 
Calheel said:
I am going to post the local news story about a crash YOU never heard of because 6-person plane crashes usually aren't a national news story.
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I don’t disagree with this, but I think this particular crash was more noteworthy for what happened when the plane hit the ground. A full load of jet fuel and the resulting bomb-like blast in a populated area of a major city differentiates this one from the random Cessna dropping on a subdivision in Glendora.
 
farce© said:
I don’t disagree with this, but I think this particular crash was more noteworthy for what happened when the plane hit the ground. A full load of jet fuel and the resulting bomb-like blast in a populated area of a major city differentiates this one from the random Cessna dropping on a subdivision in Glendora.
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Edit -- I officially recant all my posts on this thread because I just read that 19 people on the ground were injured and one killed. That is a much bigger news story.
 
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Calheel said:
Philadelphia has one of the top children's hospital in the world, with some very unique specialties. My niece flew from SoCal to Philadelphia with her two-week old infant to repair a unique pancreas issue.
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CHOP indeed pioneered radiologically guided partial pancreatectomy for newborns with intractable hypoglycemia.

But this patient went to Shriners.
 
AlbionAmerican said:
Not to add to the conspiracies, however there is a rather questionable track record around this Med Jet / Jet Rescue company. Is it common for drug smugglers to steal tail numbers? Or might that company be lending out its tail numbers?

Really does have the whiff of some kind of front organization or at the very least a high level trafficking asset (in addition to being an air ambulance). I mean what is the logic in flying Mexican patients from Tijuana to Philadelphia for treatment? Would it really be so hard for them to find somewhere in California or Arizona?

This company just doesn't seem right to me.

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Wouldn’t it be easy for a cartel or criminal organization to take photos of planes/jets and repaint their own aircraft?
 
Calheel said:
Edit -- I officially recant all my posts on this thread because I just read that 19 people on the ground were injured and one killed. That is a much bigger news story.
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This tends to happen when planes crash into urban areas and explode into giant fireballs.
 
kickazzz2000 said:
CHOP indeed pioneered radiologically guided partial pancreatectomy for newborns with intractable hypoglycemia.

But this patient went to Shriners.
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Philly has long been a major destination for certain types of pediatric care. The first Ronald McDonald House opened there in the early 1970s
 
Calheel said:
Depends where the giant fire ball hits

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1. That doesn't look like a giant fireball. It looks nothing like what we saw in Philly.
2. That doesn't look much like an urban area. It looks like outskirts.
3. I said tends. I'm not going to say something silly about all plane crashes everywhere. I think there was a lot of incredulity on this thread -- and that might be because people were assuming (I was) that there would be dozens of injuries and a few fatalities.
 
Calheel said:
I am going to post the local news story about a crash YOU never heard of because 6-person plane crashes usually aren't a national news story.

Go read up on all the 4+ fatality crashes listed in the link above. Tell me how many you knew about before you read the link.

Edit -- the only slight concession I'll make to your side on this point is the presence of the video. The news loves good, dramatic video -- and not all plane crashes have such dramatic video. So, it is possible this still would have been a national story simply because of the video -- albeit not as big a story as it has become.
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There are no sides here.
It’s not that serious.

At first I took you for a Trumper trying to brush this off, so I included the lmao in my initial post purely for antagonism. However, IMHO, the nature of the crash, the circumstances surrounding it. (An air ambulance carrying a child to a medical procedure) And the location (a densely populated major city) The video(s) of the giant fireball and subsequent images of northwest Philly looking like a war zone, would combine to make this national news.

Having said that, if it’s your contention that this story drew even MORE coverage because it occurred on the tail of the largest aviation disaster in two decades, then I completely agree. I just feel like there is more than enough meat on this particular bone to make this national on its own.
 
superrific said:
1. That doesn't look like a giant fireball. It looks nothing like what we saw in Philly.
2. That doesn't look much like an urban area. It looks like outskirts.
3. I said tends. I'm not going to say something silly about all plane crashes everywhere. I think there was a lot of incredulity on this thread -- and that might be because people were assuming (I was) that there would be dozens of injuries and a few fatalities.
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I dunno Super. It was in Honolulu right by the airport. That is pretty well populated, although that particular area was mostly a warehouse area. The fireball was pretty huge, but maybe nighttime fireballs look more impressive.

I am a little surprised that it took so long for the media to report about the ground casualties.
 
Calheel said:
I dunno Super. It was in Honolulu right by the airport. That is pretty well populated, although that particular area was mostly a warehouse area. The fireball was pretty huge, but maybe nighttime fireballs look more impressive.

I am a little surprised that it took so long for the media to report about the ground casualties.
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Not going to argue about this. Don't care. I think the tweet that was first posted on this thread mentioned the casualties, though obviously individual tweets aren't the media.

I know nothing about measuring fireballs. In addition, what you posted was much less of a closeup, which would tend to lessen the visual impact. At the same time, wasn't that plane landing whereas the one in Philly taking off? There would be a lot more jet fuel in the latter case, I would imagine. Eh, doesn't matter.
 
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