Bill Maher dines with The Donald

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No, you're just butt hurt that Dems are seen by the public at large as

So you mean “toxic masculinity?” Do I need to sit when I pee?

Q poll, funny. Q exists to keep Dems from jumping off the ledge.
Why do you care about another man's approach to using the restroom? Does it change some thing if one sits to pee? Doesn't it equally accomplish the mission?

I recall a conversation on the ZZL about one of the posters husband sitting to pee.

I often sit to pee in the morning before I dress, you seem interested, would you like to watch? I bet I have less over splash and a lower risk of leaving the seat up by sitting.

Either way, those who care how another person uses the restroom are the real issue.
 
I've never watched the movie, but I read the books. At one point I was so in agreement with those that pointed to Atlas Shrugged as an example of how government over-regulation impacts society. I'm happy to say that I've learned and grown past that phase in life.

Ayn Rand has this weird appeal to 18 year old white middle class econ majors...the same population that take their first philosophy class and then go around saying that everything anyone else says is a "fallacy"

Most of them, thankfully, grow out of it.
 
Ayn Rand has this weird appeal to 18 year old white middle class econ majors...the same population that take their first philosophy class and then go around saying that everything anyone else says is a "fallacy"

Most of them, thankfully, grow out of it.
John Rogers (blog post March 19, 2009): "There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."
 
I've never watched the movie, but I read the books. At one point I was so in agreement with those that pointed to Atlas Shrugged as an example of how government over-regulation impacts society. I'm happy to say that I've learned and grown past that phase in life.
Did you read each and every page of John Galt’s interminable soliloquy?
 
I used to watch Dennis Miller's show on HBO and enjoyed it. Then Dennis made a tactical decision to veer right because he apparently believed he had maxed out his liberal audience and wanted to "expand" his base. Sort of the same thing with Bill Mahr. His Covid and vaccine denialism was the breaking point for me. I really don't need someone like Bill Mahr "educating" me on the perils of vaccines. My grandparents told me pretty much all I need to know about how vaccines and antibiotic medicines changed society. And any remaining doubts I had were pretty directly addressed when I started dabbling in genealogy and found out how many children didn't survive childhood and how many women died in childbirth back in the "good old days."
Well said.

I used to watch Maher's show religiously every week. Watching him react with arrogant disdain to a global pandemic was an eye opener for me and I haven't watched him since.

He did nail one thing, though. He's called the conservative movement a slow moving coup, and the rotten fruits of that observation are starting to flourish.
 
The fact that he (Bill Maher) equates those things as equal shows how out of touch he is.
Dennis Miller is about six months older than I am. I used to watch and enjoy his show. It was just frustrating watching him slide into being a hard right-winger. Bill Maher is about a year and half younger than I am. Bill Maher's shift to the right was a little easier. First, because I had already experienced the swing to the right with Dennis Miller. Second, because the abruptness of Covid really illuminated how BSC Bill Maher was all along.
 
The fact that he equates those things as equal shows how out of touch he is.
I know that some here have liked Maher in the past, but I never cared for him even in his prime when he seemed friendlier to a liberal point of view. He's just always struck me as impossibly smug, conceited, arrogant, and pompous. Given his ego it doesn't really surprise me that he's moved to the right as he's gotten older.
 
Dennis Miller is about six months older than I am. I used to watch and enjoy his show. It was just frustrating watching him slide into being a hard right-winger. Bill Maher is about a year and half younger than I am. Bill Maher's shift to the right was a little easier. First, because I had already experienced the swing to the right with Dennis Miller. Second, because the abruptness of Covid really illuminated how BSC Bill Maher was all along.
One of the episodes of Hawaii Five-0 i worked on had Dennis Miller playing a talk radio asshole that gets killed in a terrorist bombing of his studio. I suspect there was some fantasy role play from one of the show's writers. James Caan (RIP) was also in the episode. He was more enjoyable to be around.
 
I saw a similar comparison by the "Raging Moderate" podcast recently. Give me a freaking break. Sure DEI caused a slide towards autocracy. Maddening.
I mean, it did in a way. But that's an indictment of the anti-DEI autocrats, not those supporting marginalized groups.
 
I know that some here have liked Maher in the past, but I never cared for him even in his prime when he seemed friendlier to a liberal point of view. He's just always struck me as impossibly smug, conceited, arrogant, and pompous. Given his ego it doesn't really surprise me that he's moved to the right as he's gotten older.
I have never understood the allure. He is a sociopath. That he can be moderately entertaining does not change this fact.
 
Ayn Rand has this weird appeal to 18 year old white middle class econ majors...the same population that take their first philosophy class and then go around saying that everything anyone else says is a "fallacy"

Most of them, thankfully, grow out of it.
Ding ding ding ding. This perfectly describes my husband (business major) and me (Econ). I came out of Carolina believing the pick yourself up by your bootstraps adage. Five years of real experience taught me about empathy, glass ceilings and the need for some wokeness in my own life.
 
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