California Fires - Politics of Blame

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Callatoroy said:
LOL, you are literally blaming a guy who isn't even president yet. He is a private citizen. Did trump EVER help a dem state? If so, then that just renders your post and picture moot.
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Trump only helped California after the Camp Fire in 2018 after aides showed him that red voters actually lived in the affected areas. He was fully prepared to tell all of those people to get bent.
 
Enigma94 said:
Nobody is blaming Trump for the wildfires you illiterate dumb fuck. People are pointing out that he shouldn't lie about natural disasters for political gain, just like he did during Hurricane Helene.
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This entire thread is about trump. The fires are just a vehicle for whining about him. This thread is about fires. Every topic on this board somehow gets perverted into trump derangement. I guess one gigantic trump catch all thread isn't enough to contain all the TDS that exists in your lives on a day to day basis. And shove your hypocrisy up your ass.
 
nycfan said:
So maybe we need a California Fire politics pissing match parallel thread?

I actually considered starting one yesterday.
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I'll stop now. I just can't believe Trump supporters are willing to defend his response to this natural disaster, but at some point I'll stop being surprised by their mendacity. In any event, I'll just watch this thread for actual news about the fires going forward.
 
nycfan said:
Actually just renaming this one the political pissing match thread and stared an info only thread:

nycfan

Off-Topic Thread 'California Fires - INFO (not politics)'

So, I’ve posted a lot of politics stuff on the other thread, so just making it the political pissing match one. This one is just for sharing info on the fires.

Thanks.
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A lot less work for me this way.
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This is a politics board. I would think that the default status for a thread would be political. If we want threads for info only, they should be started and labeled as such. Which is to say, the current situation is the best model to use going forward.
 
nycfan said:
So maybe we need a California Fire politics pissing match parallel thread?

I actually considered starting one yesterday.
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Whatever it takes to discuss ANY topic that doesn't involve 3/4 of the comments to be "trump bitching" when he is clearly not the intended subject of the story. Not a sarcastic question. Is that even possible?
 
Callatoroy said:
Whatever it takes to discuss ANY topic that doesn't involve 3/4 of the comments to be "trump bitching" when he is clearly not the intended subject of the story. Not a sarcastic question. Is that even possible?
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Is it possible for him to stop lying about shit? If he would stop lying about everything then people would probably stop pointing out his lies.
 
Callatoroy said:
Whatever it takes to discuss ANY topic that doesn't involve 3/4 of the comments to be "trump bitching" when he is clearly not the intended subject of the story. Not a sarcastic question. Is that even possible?
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Care to answer my questions? You keep blaming people who aren't at fault, while ignoring the actual causes. Why is that?
 
lawtig02 said:
I'll stop now. I just can't believe Trump supporters are willing to defend his response to this natural disaster, but at some point I'll stop being surprised by their mendacity. In any event, I'll just watch this thread for actual news about the fires going forward.
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LOL, literally nobody defended trump. I haven't read a single post defending him. Please repost where people are defending him. Maybe I missed it.
 
SnoopRob said:
I think what we really need is a "Why do you dumb fucks keep responding to obvious trolls?" thread.
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The problem is that all the 'obvious trolls' are Republicans, who have opposing opinions. I typically disagree (often vehemently) with their opinions, as do many others on this board, and this ends up looking like a 'pissing match.' However, if you don't respond to such trolls, you get an echo chamber, which is boring.
 
Callatoroy said:
LOL, literally nobody defended trump. I haven't read a single post defending him. Please repost where people are defending him. Maybe I missed it.
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You are regurgitating his bullshit. And your insistence that other people not talk about him in relation to the politics of this event can only be interpreted as an attempt to deflect.
 
Bobfripp said:
The problem is that all the 'obvious trolls' are Republicans, who have opposing opinions. I typically disagree (often vehemently) with their opinions, as do many others on this board, and this ends up looking like a 'pissing match.' However, if you don't respond to such trolls, you get an echo chamber, which is boring.
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That’s why y’all do it? Jeez.
 
Enigma94 said:
Is it possible for him to stop lying about shit? If he would stop lying about everything then people would probably stop pointing out his lies.
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You know his game. Why are you so triggered by it. I'm guessing he was talking about when he offered to help CA move some water one time and newsome told him to get lost. Again, after 4 years in office and 4 years running for office you act like you don't know what to expect.
 
Callatoroy said:
LOL, literally nobody defended trump. I haven't read a single post defending him. Please repost where people are defending him. Maybe I missed it.
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Then what the fuck are you doing on this thread?

Here's the Trump tweet that started this discussion --

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And here's what I asked about it this morning --

"Ramrouser? Callatoroy? PandemicBlue? One of you want to weigh in on this? You want to try to defend your president dishonestly attacking the people trying to deal with an active natural disaster just because they happen to be Democrats?

"If you're going to be meaningful contributors to this board, we need to hear your input on things like this."


You responded to that post. What the hell are you doing if you're not defending Trump?
 
lawtig02 said:
Then what the fuck are you doing on this thread?

Here's the Trump tweet that started this discussion --

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And here's what I asked about it this morning --

"Ramrouser? Callatoroy? PandemicBlue? One of you want to weigh in on this? You want to try to defend your president dishonestly attacking the people trying to deal with an active natural disaster just because they happen to be Democrats?

"If you're going to be meaningful contributors to this board, we need to hear your input on things like this."


You responded to that post. What the hell are you doing if you're not defending Trump?
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He might have me on ignore. Maybe you can ask him if he understands that the primary problem facing LA in fighting this fire is gravity. I'd like to see his take on basic science.
 
Bobfripp said:
The problem is that all the 'obvious trolls' are Republicans, who have opposing opinions. I typically disagree (often vehemently) with their opinions, as do many others on this board, and this ends up looking like a 'pissing match.' However, if you don't respond to such trolls, you get an echo chamber, which is boring.
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At least you admit it. I gotta say though that saying anyone who disagrees with me is a troll is pretty shallow and weak. But respect for owning it.
 
Callatoroy said:
You know his game. Why are you so triggered by it. I'm guessing he was talking about when he offered to help CA move some water one time and newsome told him to get lost. Again, after 4 years in office and 4 years running for office you act like you don't know what to expect.
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He's going to be the POTUS. He sets all kinds of policy and agenda. You are on a primarily political board. He injected himself into yet another natural disaster with lies. How the eff do you think it wouldn't get discussed? Are you ok with him lying about natural disasters (among thousands of other things) for political gain? Obviously rhetorical because you have proven you are.
 
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