Can you imagine if Biden did/said that?

[ColdBlueSteel]

Hey, you know, Adolf Hitler would a great leader according to calla's warped definition! He had "vast numbers of people to follow (him) and (his) actions."

It’s not a warped definition. It’s exactly what a leader does.

 

[CFordUNC]

It’s not a warped definition. It’s exactly what a leader does.

You'd consider Adolf Hitler a great leader? Is that what you're saying?

 

[ColdBlueSteel]

You'd consider Adolf Hitler a great leader? Is that what you're saying?

Effective leader? Absolutely.
Do I agree with his vision and direction? Absolutely not.

 

[CFordUNC]

Effective leader? Absolutely.
Do I agree with his vision and direction? Absolutely not.

That wasn't the point in question. The point in question previously on this thread was not whether Donald Trump is an effective leader. It was whether he is a "good" leader.

 

[mpaer]

That wasn't the point in question. The point in question previously on this thread was not whether Donald Trump is an effective leader. It was whether he is a "good" leader.

He is a master at being a destructive, divisive leader Half the nation-more or less-loves his hate.............
I know you know that Cford-just reiterting it.......

 

[nycfan]

I can see Biden saying something like this (oh sit-up about eggs, man), TBH, but if he had the uproar would have been something to see.

 

[nycfan]

 

[farce©]

This whole Houthi/Signal clusterfuck thread should be under this topic....can you imagine the brain aneurisms they would be having on Fox News if this breach of security happened during the Biden Administration?

Politics Thread '👀 Waltz, SecDef SignalGate | More Waltz Signal chats'

Mar 24, 2025

Making this thread about the Atlantic Bombshell and starting a replacement Current Events thread.
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Deportations Haven’t Surged Under Trump. But Here’s How They’ve Changed.

An analysis of flight data shows how the Trump administration is using extraordinary means to deport people.

www.nytimes.com

“… But even as immigration officials have escalated efforts to remove people from the United States, they continue to fall short of the mass deportations Mr. Trump vowed to carry out. Overall, the number of flights and their destinations look largely similar to those...

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[nycfan]

 

[finesse]

Benghazi

 

[UNCatTech]

It’s not a warped definition. It’s exactly what a leader does.

Then, again we can say that according to this standard Jim Jones was a great leader.

If people cannot figure out that there is far more to great leadership than getting others to follow them, given all the examples, then we're doomed.

 

[UNCatTech]

Effective leader? Absolutely.
Do I agree with his vision and direction? Absolutely not.

Not effective, was he a great leader?

Hint: great leaders don't normally have to kill themselves to avoid the consequences of their leadership.