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I wish I had looked at the Palisade when the lease was up on my 2022 Pilot. The cost of the 2025 Pilot with the same options as my 2022 was $10K more than what the 2022 cost. I had leased a Pilot every three years since 2013. The cost of the lease stayed pretty much the same with all of them. It was cheaper to lease my 2022 Pilot than it was to buyout the 2019. The lease for the 2025 one was going to be $100 more a month than it was for the 2022. I ended up buying out the 2022 because it was cheaper. I think it is crazy how much the price went up in 3 years. I looked at the 2025 Palisade after I bought out the 2022 Pilot, and the cost of one with the same options as my 2022 Pilot was $10K less than the 2025 Pilot with the same options.
 
uncgriff said:
My new ride.

They finally put an manual in it.


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The first or second year the Z3 came out, my uncle had a book publishing company call and ask, “Are you ever going to send us that manuscript?”

He had to ask, “What manuscript?”

It had been 15 or so years and my uncle had forgotten. After being reminded, he told the pleasant young employee on the phone, “I told your company YEARS AGO that I don’t write made-up books. I follow the research. Your company didn’t like the book I sent you.”

Eventually, the young employee said, “Well, are you going to return the advance (or whatever money). My uncle said, “Of course, where do I send it and how much?”

“Just the original $15K.”

“With interest?”

“No interest.”

My uncle had a habit of putting money like that into Vanguard S&P Index Fund accounts and then ignoring them.

So, when told “no interest,” he subtracted “$15,000” from the account balance and went and bought a BMW Z3 with cash.

His wife, my aunt (my Dad’s sister), was appalled at what he’d spent ON A CAR.

He then showed her how it wasn’t real money and they were extraordinarily well-off even after frivolously buying the Z3.

He’d gone from a family that was dirt poor and uneducated and he was the first high school graduate in his family, the first college graduate, and the first Ph.D. Then, the longtime Dean of UGA’s School/College of Education.

My aunt quickly came to love that Z3. Hated parting with it when they downsized and had room for only two vehicles.
 
I’m just going to go ahead and tell it. My daughter came to work with me when Covid began. At that point I was driving a “fairly reliable” 1985 F150
She had me change my bookkeeper and after 6 months the new guy had a zoom call with me. Between repairs and gas I was spending @$1,200 a month!?!
Long story short my daughter and I went to Mark Jacobson next week and I bought a RAV4 off the truck and got the zero interest on I think @35-36K . This month is the last payment and my auto expenses for the last year are less than $50.
You’re never too old to get smarter!
 
SmilingJack said:
I’m just going to go ahead and tell it. My daughter came to work with me when Covid began. At that point I was driving a “fairly reliable” 1985 F150
She had me change my bookkeeper and after 6 months the new guy had a zoom call with me. Between repairs and gas I was spending @$1,200 a month!?!
Long story short my daughter and I went to Mark Jacobson next week and I bought a RAV4 off the truck and got the zero interest on I think @35-36K . This month is the last payment and my auto expenses for the last year are less than $50.
You’re never too old to get smarter!
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Any reason you're including gas $ with the f-150 but not the RAV?

I hope that $50 was for an oil change ;)
 
It is amazing how cheap Kia is able to sell all these 3 row SUVs with a lot of features

Where is the trade off? Are the engines still going to break?
 
Heelsandeers said:
It is amazing how cheap Kia is able to sell all these 3 row SUVs with a lot of features

Where is the trade off? Are the engines still going to break?
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They still have issues with catastrophic failures and electrical gremlins at higher rates than Toyota and Honda. Additionally, you’ll find more complaints about poor dealership experiences with Kia Hyundai than just about any, other than stellantis, and they’ll void that amazing warranty quickly if you don’t have stellar maintenance documentation. Their turbo engines are suppose to be shit, unless you’re a perfect with the upkeep, and even then it’s a shoulder shrug. Their resale also tends to tank, quickly.

Mind you, this is my impression from dozens of hours researching vehicles over the last 12-15 months. This impression gets over indexed on anecdotes, and while there are undoubtedly more Kia Hyundai horror stories than most car makers, the likelihood is we’re talking about maybe 5-10% in a 5year ownership window.
 
Healing said:
They still have issues with catastrophic failures and electrical gremlins at higher rates than Toyota and Honda. Additionally, you’ll find more complaints about poor dealership experiences with Kia Hyundai than just about any, other than stellantis, and they’ll void that amazing warranty quickly if you don’t have stellar maintenance documentation. Their turbo engines are suppose to be shit, unless you’re a perfect with the upkeep, and even then it’s a shoulder shrug. Their resale also tends to tank, quickly.

Mind you, this is my impression from dozens of hours researching vehicles over the last 12-15 months. This impression gets over indexed on anecdotes, and while there are undoubtedly more Kia Hyundai horror stories than most car makers, the likelihood is we’re talking about maybe 5-10% in a 5year ownership window.
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But might be a better deal if you're just leasing one every 3 years.
 
Carolina Fever said:
But might be a better deal if you're just leasing one every 3 years.
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Absolutely agree. It’s not how I orient to vehicles, but I have a very bougie friend who is terrible with money and turns to me for financial planning. She makes good money and is firm that driving a newer car is a priority, and she gets bored with a car quickly. I’ve moved her from leasing Lexus and Mercedes to Kia and Hyundai because that 3 year window is pretty safe, and lease vehicles have good maintenance coverage.

She hasn’t complained one bit about downgrading from an RX to a Telluride, while saving several thousand over the life of the lease.
 
Healing said:
They still have issues with catastrophic failures and electrical gremlins at higher rates than Toyota and Honda. Additionally, you’ll find more complaints about poor dealership experiences with Kia Hyundai than just about any, other than stellantis, and they’ll void that amazing warranty quickly if you don’t have stellar maintenance documentation. Their turbo engines are suppose to be shit, unless you’re a perfect with the upkeep, and even then it’s a shoulder shrug. Their resale also tends to tank, quickly.
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About every 5 years or so we hear how Hyundai/Kia has turned the corner only for them to recall a bunch of engines from the previous 5

That type of disposable/replaceable vehicle is not my cup of tea at all. But I get it for those who just want something cheap or temporary
 
Healing said:
She hasn’t complained one bit about downgrading from an RX to a Telluride, while saving several thousand over the life of the lease.
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Lexus doesn't lease well at all. Always a cheaper or better equivalent

The Lexus will be just as good when you turn it in as the day you got it and the new model will barely be an upgrade
 
4thgenheel said:
my dad has a rav4. unless @SmilingJack drives a lot he's probably spending about a hundred bucks a month on gas. if that.
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Yep the truck with the 8cyl was getting @8 mpg the RAV4 is getting 29 around town and 34 on the highway. I do put a lot of miles on it for work I'm at @75,000 miles in 4 years. I forgot about putting new tires on it last year so $550 is what I spent on parts & repairs.
 
I’ve got a 2019 BMW X3 xdrive. I bought it new. So in 6 years only unscheduled thing was a plastic piece in coolant system. It spilled coolant as you were going down road. I got it replaced with aluminum. It was expensive, but BMW’s are.
 
Love my Silverado 1500. Wife loves her Pilot, fwiw..
My son in law owns some Meineke stores. He says Toyota and Honda are the way to go. I got a good deal on my 1500 as a pre-owned lease vehicle from a company my brother worked for. Probably be my last full size pickup. The sticker prices are shocking.
 
uncgriff said:
Still have the s2000. Trying to decide what to do with it. 2006 with only 61k miles and in great shape. It's such a fun car but I keep it under covers most the time.
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I was just talking with some folks earlier today about still kind of wanting a S2000

What color? Do you have OEM hardtop? If you ever decide to sell it I’d be interested 👀
 
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