Changing Tenor in HR Departments

[Mulberry Heel]

Meh... DEI was a blow to average performing white guys who expected to move up if they paid their dues (i.e., hung around doing mediocre work).

I remember reading a biography of Jackie Robinson integrating the Major Leagues and it noted that many of the mediocre white players were among those who were the most opposed to integrating baseball, because they knew it would mean the end of their playing careers in the Major Leagues. Some of the opposition to Robinson was racism, but much of it was also the plain fear of having to compete against top-notch black talent. Hall of Famer Ted Williams said as much. And from what I can see that attitude and sense of entitlement by many white men hasn't changed much in all the decades since then, and not just for baseball, but in all career fields.

 

[UNCatTech]

Do you have hard data that the new right would be for affirmative action for men in college admissions? I find that claim pretty fantastical.

I've read a couple of articles talking about men's admissions already being helped. One was discussing the numbers at Ivy league schools. The numbers they used showed that if admissions were strictly based on academics, and didn't try to balance make/ female then the number of males accepted would drop by about 30%.

 

[superrific]

I agree with super on this one. Whether one agrees with it or not, the author describes a very real source of frustration among young people.

It's not just about agreeing or not. It isn't our place to tell people how they should feel internally. The author was saying specifically he was not angry at the minorities who got the position. That is the right attitude.

Humans are going to have frustrations. That's inevitable. Our moral duty is not to project our frustrations onto other people. It is to avoid characterizing personal disappointment as hostility to out-groups. Our duty is to accept that misfortune happens, which demands empathy of those who struggle AND no scapegoating of others. It is never a duty to silence people.

The problem is that 99% of what comes out as grievances completely fails that moral test. The right-wing is nothing without its scapegoats. That's all they seem capable of.

So when there's a guy who's not scapegoating, he shouldn't be harshed on. Maybe he secretly scapegoats; who knows. Maybe he's scapegoated elsewhere. I don't know. But this article is not scapegoating. The disclaimer I cited above occurred at the end, but it wasn't tacked on. The entire logic of the piece is "white Gen Xers failed me," which is a completely different concept than what we almost always hear from MAGA.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

I've read a couple of articles talking about men's admissions already being helped. One was discussing the numbers at Ivy league schools. The numbers they used showed that if admissions were strictly based on academics, and didn't try to balance make/ female then the number of males accepted would drop by about 30%.

Are these ivy league administrators members of the new right? That seems even more fantastical.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

I remember reading a biography of Jackie Robinson integrating the Major Leagues and it noted that many of the mediocre white players were among those who were the most opposed to integrating baseball, because they knew it would mean the end of their playing careers in the Major Leagues. Some of the opposition to Robinson was racism, but much of it was also the plain fear of having to compete against top-notch black talent. Hall of Famer Ted Williams said as much. And from what I can see that attitude and sense of entitlement by many white men hasn't changed much in all the decades since then, and not just for baseball, but in all career fields.

I'm sure that happened but its not really a valid comparison to DEI. Those owners weren't hiring black players over better white players just to fill some diversity goals.