Charlie Kirk shot and killed at Utah rally.

[Callatoroy]

MAGA parents fail their kids. Look at this example.

What's your point? Dem parents don't fail their kids? Seriously, if that isn't it I don't get it. In this case they seemed to have failed him and are now paying a terrible price, as is the country.

 

[CFordUNC]

 

[wmheel1287]

I agree over the last 2 days. In fact, it has affected me to the point that I had to ask myself what the fuck am I doing getting caught up in it. I have been disgusted with most politicians on the right who have made public comments. I told my son today that if by some chance Nancy Mace is the pub nominee for governor I will have to vote for the D candidate. But I completely disagree with you that it has been that way for a while. There has been plenty to go around from the left



Biden - "We're done talking about the debate. It's time to put Trump in a bullseye"

Pelosi, Harris, Biden, Schumer - "Trump is a threat to democracy"

"Today’s political and rhetorical landscape is intensely polarized and fueled by anger, distrust and conspiracy theories. It’s easier to target your political opponents for violence if you see them as “enemies of the nation,” Boyle said." So calling republicans nazis, fascists, etc. is doing just that. How long has the left been using those terms? Since trump 1.0.

My point isn't in keeping score. Its that these past 2 days have been a wake up call for me in that the republican party and democratic party, with the assistance of social media influencers and bots have been taken over by the propensity to use violent rhetoric and the only way to stop it is by a collective effort from the everyday man/woman to reject it in social media and hold politicians accountable. I'm not hopeful.

I agree that keeping score is useless and that holding people accountable is what has to happen. All of these fools who spew this venom need to be run out of office and off of our media feeds.

 

[theel4life]

I agree over the last 2 days. In fact, it has affected me to the point that I had to ask myself what the fuck am I doing getting caught up in it. I have been disgusted with most politicians on the right who have made public comments. I told my son today that if by some chance Nancy Mace is the pub nominee for governor I will have to vote for the D candidate. But I completely disagree with you that it has been that way for a while. There has been plenty to go around from the left



Biden - "We're done talking about the debate. It's time to put Trump in a bullseye"

Pelosi, Harris, Biden, Schumer - "Trump is a threat to democracy"

"Today’s political and rhetorical landscape is intensely polarized and fueled by anger, distrust and conspiracy theories. It’s easier to target your political opponents for violence if you see them as “enemies of the nation,” Boyle said." So calling republicans nazis, fascists, etc. is doing just that. How long has the left been using those terms? Since trump 1.0.

My point isn't in keeping score. Its that these past 2 days have been a wake up call for me in that the republican party and democratic party, with the assistance of social media influencers and bots have been taken over by the propensity to use violent rhetoric and the only way to stop it is by a collective effort from the everyday man/woman to reject it in social media and hold politicians accountable. I'm not hopeful.

 

[Callatoroy]

You are not a competent writer of a sentence.

 

[1moretimeagain]

I’ve been out. Has it been announced that the killer had an accomplice?

 

[ChileG]

Is it your opinion that political rhetoric capable of inciting violence is only coming from the right?

Here we go with the bo sides crap.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

This, precisely.

This is why it’s fun rubbing your nose in it, @Ramrouser. Because you do it over and over and over, never learning a lesson. Your first few posts on this thread were to jump to the conclusion that the shooter must have been a transgender left winger, and that “the left” would finally get the civil war that it’s been clamoring for. You make yourself an easy target.

Agreed, but to be fair, it's not just him - calla here and a bunch of other people I've seen on social media (especially facebook) were very quick to jump to conclusions and just stated that the killer was obviously a vile liberal and that Kirk was killed because of his great Christian family values, and he was a martyr for their cause. We're still in the learning stage, but it does seem based on what we do know that the shooter wasn't what Trumpers were expecting he would be. So I expect that we will now see the bosiding "a pox on both your houses" rhetoric pick up steam.

 

[King Hippo]

I’ve been out. Has it been announced that the killer had an accomplice?

So they are going after all the far far right folks since that's who is responsible?

 

[Callatoroy]

I agree. Now apply that to calling half the country nazis, fascists, racists, etc.

 

[mpaer]

So I did not stomach much of her specch
Do we know who she identifies as the "Evil Doers"
Is it Maga v Maga violence Or transgenders or who ?
Biden?

 

[CFordUNC]

I agree. Now apply that to calling half the country nazis, fascists, racists, etc.

To be fair, many right wing influencers just this week were talking about how Kirk’s death would be their Reichstag moment. And the Vice President of the United States once called his own current boss “America’s Hitler.” (To my knowledge, no politician in the Democratic Party has even outright called Trump or any other Republican ‘Hitler’).

But yes, I do agree that in general the vast majority of rank and file conservatives are not fascists, are not Nazis, are not racists, and should not be painted with such broad brushstrokes.

 

[ZenMode]

Politics Post in thread 'Charlie Kirk shot and killed at Utah rally.'

Thursday at 11:42 AM

I have no idea who the shooter is but are you really surprised if this turns out to be someone with left wing ideology? What are the other options? Someone who Kirk wronged on an individual basis? Right wing conspiracy led by Trump?

He was apparently hated by far-right extremist groups. Says this twitter account (longer thread on it)

• Heelsandeers

• 

Ok, sure. It was put out there as an option but, given recent events, I think we expected it to be a stereotypical "left" person.

 

[WaynetheDrain]

I’ve been out. Has it been announced that the killer had an accomplice?

Look I know she's grieving, but wtf is that dumb Stepford wife clone talking about?

Sweetheart, your husband wasn't that important. He was a loudmouth You Tuber with an audience of incel teens. Just be happy his grift operation of the unwashed masses banked you enough money to live comfortably the rest of your life. Don't try to act like he was important enough to rally a movement.

 

[CHAMTRAIN]

The Clout Wars of 2025. Clout chasing follower of a clout chasing far right streamer kills a right wing clout chaser and the clout chasing president comes out and says he wishes he could kill him like they do in China.

What they all have in common is they lack empathy and they seek power and fame and they would do whatever it takes to get it.

 

[ZenMode]

I agree. Now apply that to calling half the country nazis, fascists, racists, etc.

For some portion of the Dems, i.e. McAdoo, only obviously violent speech counts.

 

[Callatoroy]

Here we go with the bo sides crap.

Please explain why that argument in this case isn't accurate. The concept of it always has to be the fault of one side or the other, especially in politics, seems intellectually lazy, willfully ignorant, and that the person making that argument is incapable of independent thought and reflection. That argument absolutely destroys businesses, schools, sports teams, etc. because it basically implies that failure is never the fault of the person making that type of argument. If you can't see that political rhetoric that incites violence is common across both parties then you are choosing to accept and approve of it. Never have understood why analyzing something with the knowledge that the problem could point back to me was in some way wrong.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Look I know she's grieving, but wtf is that dumb Stepford wife clone talking about?

Sweetheart, your husband wasn't that important. He was a loudmouth youtuber with an audience of incel teens.

Interesting form of grief. Vague insinuations about vengeance against an imaginary cabal for committing a crime someone has confessed to and been arrested for.

 

[UNCatTech]

I agree over the last 2 days. In fact, it has affected me to the point that I had to ask myself what the fuck am I doing getting caught up in it. I have been disgusted with most politicians on the right who have made public comments. I told my son today that if by some chance Nancy Mace is the pub nominee for governor I will have to vote for the D candidate. But I completely disagree with you that it has been that way for a while. There has been plenty to go around from the left



Biden - "We're done talking about the debate. It's time to put Trump in a bullseye"

Pelosi, Harris, Biden, Schumer - "Trump is a threat to democracy"

"Today’s political and rhetorical landscape is intensely polarized and fueled by anger, distrust and conspiracy theories. It’s easier to target your political opponents for violence if you see them as “enemies of the nation,” Boyle said." So calling republicans nazis, fascists, etc. is doing just that. How long has the left been using those terms? Since trump 1.0.

My point isn't in keeping score. Its that these past 2 days have been a wake up call for me in that the republican party and democratic party, with the assistance of social media influencers and bots have been taken over by the propensity to use violent rhetoric and the only way to stop it is by a collective effort from the everyday man/woman to reject it in social media and hold politicians accountable. I'm not hopeful.

Fire them all and start over.

 

[UNCatTech]

Look I know she's grieving, but wtf is that dumb Stepford wife clone talking about?

Sweetheart, your husband wasn't that important. He was a loudmouth You Tuber with an audience of incel teens. Just be happy his grift operation of the unwashed masses banked you enough money to live comfortably the rest of your life. Don't try to act like he was important enough to rally a movement.

Someone in Elijah Georgia purchased a billboard to honor her piece of shit husband.

The crap I've read on social media is disturbing.