Charlie Kirk shot and killed at Utah rally.

nycfan said:
I’m genuinely sorry that you perceive my post of some of the news distressing or that you perceive that as some indication that I somehow don’t support LGBTQ+ people. I think I have been very consistently clear that is not the case.

There are a ton of claims out there I am not sharing because they do not appear supported by reasonably rigorous reporting. I posted the initial Fox online post about the roommate only with a critique of the reporting and the reporter, but Fox was running with it and I posed it here because it is relevant to the discussion.

I posted details from the NY Post article because it is getting traction but also to call attention to how sketchy some of the reporting is (and to me how nasty the tone of the unnamed relative of the roommate is).

I didn’t do that to support or antagonize anyone, but I also don’t see how ignoring that reporting changes anything.

I am deeply troubled by the handling of this by the FBI and whatever law enforcement has raked prior debunked stories in this case. But several details have made me dubious of the groyper speculation (particularly reports that the shooter considered Kirk to be spewing hate — a groyper would be angry that Kirk is not hateful enough).

As much as I read about the extreme far right, I haven’t read much about the toxic gamer community culture since the days of Gamergate. As a result, I’ve been on a learning curve trying to grasp what reads to me like a more anarchist stew that doesn’t fit perfectly into a far right or far left narrative. And I think the general lack of knowledge about that insular online community has created a lot of ill-informed media speculation about some of the details here.

Anyway, the story about the roommate is pretty ugly because there are a lot of strands to pull at here that don’t all make a ton of sense and meanwhile it is feeding a mob mentality against a small, vulnerable minority. I prefer the MAGA mob focus on the left generally than be gifted the target they want and government support to vilify and torment all transgender people even more than is already happening.

I find this all immensely upsetting personally but I also don’t believe in looking away or ignoring reports I don’t want to believe.
Click to expand...
You rock.
 
Bobfripp said:
In your view, what is a 'reputable' right-leaning politics discussion site? I'm actually interested.
Click to expand...
Don’t know. Oklahoma has or used to have a board (on the 247 site) that leaned more right but can’t comment on its quality. Clemson (rivals) has a politics board that I’m looking at. My initial thought is that it is about 50 / 50 but really don’t know yet. Seem some impressive insults though so I think there is some level of intelligence there. More so than the Oklahoma board.
 
Callatoroy said:
Don’t know. Oklahoma has or used to have a board (on the 247 site) that leaned more right but can’t comment on its quality. Clemson (rivals) has a politics board that I’m looking at. My initial thought is that it is about 50 / 50 but really don’t know yet. Seem some impressive insults though so I think there is some level of intelligence there. More so than the Oklahoma board.
Click to expand...
This it? ...

www.on3.com

House of Politics & Off-Topics - Forums

www.on3.com www.on3.com
 
Go to TexAgs, you can demonize marginalized people there 24/7 with hardly a peep of pushback.
 
Callatoroy said:
MTTiger19 seems a little triggered
Click to expand...
Whoever the next democrat is to be attacked, he might be in the mix to look at lol
“This is a LEFT problem holistically. They’re violent psychos. Time to get violent back.”

Say what you want, but that mentality, whether coming from the left or right is the creation of social media.
 










https://x.com/adamscochran/status/1967069719665504486

Cochran clearly has a preferred narrative which may be clouding his analysis, but he is raising a lot of good questions about how and why information is being leaked by law enforcement so far.
Click to expand...


At this point, we seem to know less about Tyler than we know.

What we do know is that the are people on both sides who are anxious to blame the other and can explain away what they don't want to believe is true.
 
Callatoroy said:
I didn’t understand the purpose of the post but after going back I interpret it as frustration because Ram doesn’t often post personal insults. I would invite you lefties to join a republican board and see how long you continue to participate before putting them on “ignore” by leaving due to the vitriol you get. On this board you live in a cocoon of affirmative nods. Regardless of your opinion of his views, if you are honest you will recognize that is out of character.
Click to expand...
Meh, I tried, but I was banned for saying there was no evidence the 2020 election was stolen. Trumpers are the most fragile snowflakes I have ever seen these days.
 
I still think most things point to him being a Groyper. The constant online presence and lack of social life. The Pepe the frog pic. The hatred for Kirk and Trump. The video game memes and messages. The fact he seemed like an incel.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top