Chrysalis...A 400 year one way trip

[aGDevil2k]

Proposed spacecraft could carry up to 2,400 people on a one-way trip to the nearest star system, Alpha Centauri

The design for a 36 mile long spacecraft, called Chrysalis, includes libraries, tropical forests and structural manufacturing facilities, all supported by artificial gravity.

www.livescience.com

 

[UNCatTech]

I want to go.

Ok, not sure I would after reading this: inhabitants to live in and adapt to an isolated environment in Antarctica for 70 to 80 years to ensure psychological wellbeing.

Why would one need to get used to isolated environment if there are going to be 2K+ people?

And if one spends 70 years adapting, are they not going to be far to old to travel this distance considering the work that would have to be compete?

But, the concept if fascinating.

 

[sringwal]

 

[Bobfripp]

I want to go.

Ok, not sure I would after reading this: inhabitants to live in and adapt to an isolated environment in Antarctica for 70 to 80 years to ensure psychological wellbeing.

Why would one need to get used to isolated environment if there are going to be 2K+ people?

And if one spends 70 years adapting, are they not going to be far to old to travel this distance considering the work that would have to be compete?

But, the concept if fascinating.

I think what they meant by 70-80 years is have a people spend a few generations on Antarctica, with the first generation probably not ever getting on the ship. Just their kids or grandkids would actually board the ship.

 

[UNCatTech]

I think what they meant by 70-80 years is have a people spend a few generations on Antarctica, with the first generation probably not ever getting on the ship. Just their kids or grandkids would actually board the ship.

Ok, that makes more sense.

Of course I'll be age discriminated against.

 

[aGDevil2k]

I want to go.

Ok, not sure I would after reading this: inhabitants to live in and adapt to an isolated environment in Antarctica for 70 to 80 years to ensure psychological wellbeing.

Why would one need to get used to isolated environment if there are going to be 2K+ people?

And if one spends 70 years adapting, are they not going to be far to old to travel this distance considering the work that would have to be compete?

But, the concept if fascinating.

Yeah that line made absolutely no sense. Isolate until near death to make sure you're ok to go? But by the time you get to that age you can't have kids? But why test it that long because if someone born has issues with it what are you going to do? Same for on the ship. You're not going back

Do dogs get to go?

 

[WaynetheDrain]

Take me now.

 

[aGDevil2k]

What happens if they get there and the planet is a dud?

 

[gregh1]

I think what they meant by 70-80 years is have a people spend a few generations on Antarctica, with the first generation probably not ever getting on the ship. Just their kids or grandkids would actually board the ship.

I'd think they'd take the elderly too, just to keep the whole "tribe" in tact.

 

[sringwal]

Considering the winning bid got only $5,000, I don’t think this is a serious experiment.

With that in mind, the isolation makes a great deal of sense. The only world those children of those children of the original volunteers would be one similar to what they had on the ship. And the only world their future offspring would know would be the ship itself. It’s as much of a social experiment as it is space exploration.

Of, course, consent becomes problematic at that point.

Eventually, you would also have to limit just how many people know there is an entire world of people who aren’t on the ship, or at least how much they know about the earth. With 2,000+ people - Hierarchies would build. Factions would arise.

Never mind the ethical questions about birth and death rates. And, by the time it reached its destination, if it even did, and let’s be honest, the odds of that are less than zero, either technology on earth would have advanced far enough that someone else would likely have beaten them there, or most of humanity would have wiped itself off the map.

All this is to say - why the fuck not give it a try? At the very least, it would rewrite the book on ethics.

 

[farce©]

Do the future generations get a rumspringa-style opportunity to help decide whether to remain or abandon the community in Antarctica?

 

[Bobfripp]

I'd think they'd take the elderly too, just to keep the whole "tribe" in tact.

Grandpa and Grandma will go on the ice floe.

 

[Bobfripp]

What happens if they get there and the planet is a dud?

Or worse, MAGAts got there first!

 

[heel79]

I'm out.

 

[superrific]

Yea, this is a remarkably selfish idea. You'd basically be condemning your grandchildren to a life entirely on board a single ship.

Also, if it's going to take 400 years, there are going to be serious inbreeding problems.

But if Elon wants to do it, build the fucking thing and someone as genius as Elon doesn't need live in fucking Antarctica. Just put him on the ship!

 

[sringwal]

Yea, this is a remarkably selfish idea. You'd basically be condemning your grandchildren to a life entirely on board a single ship.

Also, if it's going to take 400 years, there are going to be serious inbreeding problems.

But if Elon wants to do it, build the fucking thing and someone as genius as Elon doesn't need live in fucking Antarctica. Just put him on the ship!

2,000 people aboard. Inbreeding would not really be a concern.

 

[finesse]

Read several science fiction versions of generation ship stories . The tetralogy, Cities in Flight by James Blish is a good one.

Read at least one, whose name escapes me, about a generation ship went on a 200 year journey to their destination only to find out that there had been a FTL breakthrough 50 years after they left and they had been waiting the ship for over a 100 years.

 

[aGDevil2k]

Yea, this is a remarkably selfish idea. You'd basically be condemning your grandchildren to a life entirely on board a single ship.

Also, if it's going to take 400 years, there are going to be serious inbreeding problems.

But if Elon wants to do it, build the fucking thing and someone as genius as Elon doesn't need live in fucking Antarctica. Just put him on the ship!

Well unless warp speed ever becomes a thing, you have to figure at some point an expedition like this would happen. At a certain point, Earth is bye bye

 

[rodoheel]

What happens if they get there and the planet is a dud?

Don't worry - the chances that the ship will (1) reach its destination (2) with anyone alive onboard are basically zero.

 

[rodoheel]

Well unless warp speed ever becomes a thing, you have to figure at some point an expedition like this would happen. At a certain point, Earth is bye bye

Even if we launched every nuclear weapon on the planet tomorrow humanity's chances of surviving on Earth are far better than our chances of founding a viable human settlement anywhere else. Much less one that requires a 400-year, 25-trillion-mile journey.