Chrysalis...A 400 year one way trip

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rodoheel said:
Even if we launched every nuclear weapon on the planet tomorrow humanity's chances of surviving on Earth are far better than our chances of founding a viable human settlement anywhere else. Much less one that requires a 400-year, 25-trillion-mile journey.
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Well not in a billion years. The earth won't exist
 
aGDevil2k said:
At a certain point, Earth is bye bye
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Earth ain't going anywhere. Humans might. I think we will be replaced by AI overlords before we get any sort of colony ship up and running.

Also, let's suppose everyone makes it there alive, and it's easy to set up a colony. Then, they can call back to Earth to let everyone know that it's all good . . . in 2450.
 
superrific said:
Earth ain't going anywhere. Humans might. I think we will be replaced by AI overlords before we get any sort of colony ship up and running.

Also, let's suppose everyone makes it there alive, and it's easy to set up a colony. Then, they can call back to Earth to let everyone know that it's all good . . . in 2450.
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The sun as a red giant says otherwise
 
aGDevil2k said:
The sun as a red giant says otherwise
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All right. I didn't know your time horizon was THAT long. I really don't think there will be humans when the Earth is in danger. If so we'd be the longest living species in history (except perhaps for older species than us that improbably live along with us but you get the point)
 
superrific said:
All right. I didn't know your time horizon was THAT long. I really don't think there will be humans when the Earth is in danger. If so we'd be the longest living species in history (except perhaps for older species than us that improbably live along with us but you get the point)
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I mean I think that is what the idea is all about..I could be wrong but kind of like find someplace else since the earth isn't eternal

I would love to know what the earth is like in say a million years. Are there people? If so what do they look like?
 
aGDevil2k said:
I mean I think that is what the idea is all about..I could be wrong but kind of like find someplace else since the earth isn't eternal

I would love to know what the earth is like in say a million years. Are there people? If so what do they look like?
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I would love to know what the earth is like in say a million years. Are there people? If so what do they look like?

Soon we can ask Ai. :-)
 
aGDevil2k said:
Well not in a billion years. The earth won't exist
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Human civilization has existed for like 10,000 years. It is pointless to think about what might happen to the Earth a billion years from now. The expanding sun will probably become a big problem within a few hundred million years, but it would be impressive for our civilization to survive even a million years.
 
rodoheel said:
Human civilization has existed for like 10,000 years. It is pointless to think about what might happen to the Earth a billion years from now. The expanding sun will probably become a big problem within a few hundred million years, but it would be impressive for our civilization to survive even a million years.
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Agreed. The earth will be uninhabitable in a billion years years due to changes in the sun - but the earth won’t actually be swallowed up for five billions years.

Of course, in a billion years, if we were still around, we’d likely be able to figure out ways to alter the sun’s physics and be able to travel across the universe in a snap.
 
Calheel said:
Of course, in a billion years, if we were still around, we’d likely be able to figure out ways to alter the sun’s physics and be able to travel across the universe in a snap.
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But will science still be around? Not if MAGA has anything to do with it.
 
Bobfripp said:
But will science still be around? Not if MAGA has anything to do with it.
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I think the odds are we don’t make it another 500 years. If we somehow make it another billion years, then science will certainly be around. In a billion years, we’d likely be more powerful than all the gods humans have ever worshipped combined.
 
Calheel said:
I think the odds are we don’t make it another 500 years. If we somehow make it another billion years, then science will certainly be around. In a billion years, we’d likely be more powerful than all the gods humans have ever worshipped combined.
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500 years? You're generous!
 
Calheel said:
I think the odds are we don’t make it another 500 years.
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I definitely disagree with that. Is there a chance that due to human hubris/greed/violence/resource depletion that our civilization will be worse off in 500 years than it is now? Yes, I think that's definitely possible. But I think it's highly unlikely that human civilization will be entirely gone.
 
GoHeelsweeeehoooo said:
The earth will most likely still exist in a billion years - the sun isn't supposed to become a red giant for another 4 or 5 billion years
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But as said above life won't exist. The oceans will start to evaporate. Maybe some bacteria are around or something...

And what's wild is that somehow makes me sad. I don't know why, since I won't be here, but it does...
 
Twinkies will probably survive a billion years from now.

I wonder what the next 2 super continents will be named?

Also, I think the bacteria that'll remain long after we're gone will probably take care of our planet far better than we have.
 
Calheel said:
I think the odds are we don’t make it another 500 years. If we somehow make it another billion years, then science will certainly be around. In a billion years, we’d likely be more powerful than all the gods humans have ever worshipped combined.
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Unless there are science based constraints on power. Which there almost certainly are. One of which is the speed of light. If warp drive technology is impossible (and chances are very high that it is), then gods or no, we can't just snap our fingers and appear across the universe. Mushroom-based warp drives aren't actually real, no matter how convincingly they were displayed on Star Trek (LOL)
 
superrific said:
Unless there are science based constraints on power. Which there almost certainly are. One of which is the speed of light. If warp drive technology is impossible (and chances are very high that it is), then gods or no, we can't just snap our fingers and appear across the universe. Mushroom-based warp drives aren't actually real, no matter how convincingly they were displayed on Star Trek (LOL)
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I am confident humanity would find a way to move faster than light. Heck, dark energy expands the universe faster than the speed of light. Thinking how much science has advanced in just 500 years, it is impossible to comprehend where we would be in a billion years.

Of course no species has ever made it a billion years. Multi-cellular life is roughly 600 million years. So it is fanciful to assume we could make it a billion years. But in the off chance we do, it would be amazing what science could discover.
 
On behalf of agnostics and skeptics everywhere, let's all assume an obligatory "that we know of" and remember that we know almost nothing.
 
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